The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

Chula Vista · 08-21-2018, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

I've praised left wing policies too when they make sense economically, especially environmental policy.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/polit...nia/index.html

Coal, baby!!!

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Political violence is inherently retarded, no matter how you market yourself.

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Originally Posted by elphenor

"I'll vote Trump to not get a Democrat"

The same people would vote for a 100% neo-nazi if they ran for Prez in 2020. I simply can't wrap my head around that sort of tribalism in the modern era.

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Originally Posted by elphenor

(1)the right thinks he's "telling it as it is" (aka "Racism is correct")

(2)I think some if not most of the establishment leadership of the GOP is making concessions to try and save their political career or actually announcing retirement ala Paul Ryan

(3)but not really the Republican voter base

1) Don't say 'the right'. It's all about 'his base'.

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3) There's a GOP base, and then there's a Trump base.

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Originally Posted by elphenor

He blew the other primary opponents away because how openly *ahem* deplorable his rhetoric was

There's a disturbing dynamic to the Trump base.

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Originally Posted by elphenor

The Republican base unfortunately likes Trump's rhetoric, they are only maybe 33% of the country though

The GOP base makes up about 50% of the country. Trump's base is the 33%. This is his base:

a) The Wonder Bread White portion of the country. If your parents are not white, and weren't born in the USA, you are 'not one of us'.

They'll never bring up where their grandparents, or great-grandparents were born though.

b) The blind GOP voters who would put a Neo-Nazi in office before they'd ever vote democrat.

c) Gun loving, abortion hating, bible thumping zealots.

d) Folks that think everyone who's receiving social services must be one or more of the following: black or brown, a deadbeat, a schemer, a loser, a leach, a druggy, or a musician.

This is the one that I think truly believe defines it.

e) The kids that in high school during the 70s, 80s, and 90s, that were not jocks, or rockers, definitely not popular, didn't have a public voice, and always felt alienated from the norm. (this describes quite a number of my friends and family that think Trump is God).

He's their bully. He's their mid-life crisis puffed out chest. He's their spokesperson, regardless of what comes out of his mouth because of his bravado delivery - something they never had.

**Frownland** · 08-21-2018, 03:14 PM

e is a bit silly. There are plenty of people who were popular "jocks" in high school who support Trump as adults. In fact, calling back to the "glory days" probably appeals to that group the most.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

He's their mid-life crisis puffed out chest.

Bingo on this though.

OccultHawk · 08-21-2018, 03:14 PM

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The kids that in high school during the 70s, 80s, and 90s, that were not jocks, or rockers, definitely not popular, didn't have a public voice, and always felt alienated from the norm. (this describes quite a number of my friends and family that think Trump is God).

That’s a smart theory

Never thought of that / makes sense

OccultHawk · 08-21-2018, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

e is a bit silly. There are plenty of people who were popular "jocks" in high school who support Trump as adults. In fact, calling back to the "glory days" probably appeals to that group the most.

Bingo on this though.

He didn’t say no ex-jocks support trump he just gave a profile of what probably is a big part of his base

**Frownland** · 08-21-2018, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

He didn’t say no ex-jocks support trump he just gave a profile of what probably is a big part of his base

I honestly think that the "jocks" might make up a bigger portion.

OccultHawk · 08-21-2018, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I honestly think that the "jocks" might make up a bigger portion.

Then why are all these pro sports teams refusing to visit the White House after winning a championship?

**Frownland** · 08-21-2018, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Then why are all these pro sports teams refusing to visit the White House after winning a championship?

Because those are young jocks currently in their prime. How many jocks in high school make it to the NFL?

Anteater · 08-21-2018, 03:44 PM

Does Trump's base include the 15% from 2012 who voted for Obama?

He's definitely someone's midlife crisis, but there's some really interesting stats I've seen that have more twists and turns than a M. Night Shyamalan script on speed.

Chula Vista · 08-21-2018, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

There's some really interesting stats I've seen that have more twists and turns than a M. Night Shyamalan script on speed.

You're talking 'The Happening", right?

And Frowny, didn't expect you to understand my point since you are/were part of the demographic I was highlighting.

Is Trump your bully too?

**Frownland** · 08-21-2018, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

You're talking 'The Happening", right?

And Frowny, didn't expect you to understand my point since you are/were part of the demographic I was highlighting.

Is Trump your bully too?

Let's keep ad hominem out of this.

What do you think I missed about your point? There are definitely Trump supporters who fall under the demographic that you describe, but is it as significant a part of his base as you're making it out to be? What makes you say that?