The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

[Key]

It's not hard to understand what I was going for.

[MicShazam]

Originally Posted by elphenor

if you hold this position that all bets are off when it comes to fascism I think it's easy to make the argument that it's already at our doorstep and thus certain actions of Antifa are justified

Originally Posted by Frownland

But he didn't say that.

I don't know if I think we're there yet. But if I did, I think I'd find some methods justified that I wouldn't normally get behind.

[Frownland]

@Kiiii

Now that you've explained what you're going for, I'm more confused.

[Key]

I just felt that there had to be some form of acceptance toward Trump's behavior specifically on the right side. Oherwise they would've slammed him down after his first racially insensitive or otherwise commentary. I'm not saying I know that definitively which is why I formed my initial point as a question.

I was relating that to how some could accept the violence as a form of political agenda. Even though it's bad.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Kiiii

I just felt that there had to be some form of acceptance toward Trump's behavior specifically on the right side. Oherwise they would've slammed him down after his first racially insensitive or otherwise commentary. I'm not saying I know that definitively which is why I formed my initial point as a question.

So...did you not pay attention from the time that Trump started running to the time that he got elected?

[Key]

Originally Posted by Frownland

So...did you not pay attention from the time that Trump started running to the time that he got elected?

Yes. His election based on hateed and whatever else.

[MicShazam]

I only visit some sections of the internet and don't meet Americans day to day since I don't live there, but I never see any right wing Americans criticize Trump no matter what he does.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Kiiii

Yes. His election based on hateed and whatever else.

My point was that he got quite a bit of flak from both sides before he was elected.

Originally Posted by MicShazam

I only visit some sections of the internet and don't meet Americans day to day since I don't live there, but I never see any right wing Americans criticize Trump no matter what he does.

Unfortunately this is accurate. Partisan hacks ain't never gonna point the finger at someone on their side.

[Key]

Originally Posted by elphenor

the right thinks he's "telling it as it is" (aka "Racism is correct")

I think some if not most of the establishment leadership of the GOP is making concessions to try and save their political career or actually announcing retirement ala Paul Ryan

but not really the Republican voter base

Right. Which in and of itself is a form of acceptance toward his behavior. And yes frown, I do agree that there was a lot of flak but ultimately the acceptance of his behavior is what got him elected. The right side waited until afterwards to speak out. A bit too late tbh.

[Key]

Originally Posted by elphenor

it wasn't a begrudging acceptance

he blew the other primary opponents away because how openly *ahem* deplorable his rhetoric was

That's fair. Though simultaneously I don't think people were even expecting him to win so I suppose that could have something to do with it.