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Old 07-05-2018, 05:25 PM   #12741 (permalink)
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And that, on its face, is meaningless.
^ What I wrote seemed to make sense to me.

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^ HaHa! I guess I must have a "hate boner" too. Here's a women who is quite convincing (first 5 mins anyway) about how Pruitt's behaviour is contemptable at a superficial level (petty misuse of funds) and dangerous at a serious level ( environmental damage):-

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Old 07-05-2018, 05:30 PM   #12742 (permalink)
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^ What I wrote seemed to make sense to me.
Make the hubbub about their corrupt actions. High turnover rate doesn't necessarily point to anything meaningful, especially since there's been a bit of variety for the reasons people are leaving/being removed from their job.

It's disingenuous and does more harm to your side than good when you zero in on non-issues, especially when you have so much to work with. That's why I brought up Obama-era conservatives: being reactionary is not a good move for any political stripe.

And no offense man, but it reads like you approach the media without the necessary criticism that our modern times command.
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Old 07-05-2018, 06:42 PM   #12743 (permalink)
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Make the hubbub about their corrupt actions. High turnover rate doesn't necessarily point to anything meaningful, especially since there's been a bit of variety for the reasons people are leaving/being removed from their job.
^ Yep, high turn-over rate is a secondary issue. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

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It's disingenuous and does more harm to your side than good when you zero in on non-issues, especially when you have so much to work with. That's why I brought up Obama-era conservatives: being reactionary is not a good move for any political stripe.
^ Turnover has been a non-issue in previous admins, but Trump turned it into an issue when he touted himself as a businessman able to get the best people. Every businessman knows that high staff turnover is an indication of either a poor selection process or poor work environment, and is usually attributed to bad management. It's not a big deal, but I still feel it's worth deflating one of Trump's unjustified bragging points.

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^ Yes, probably true. grindy once posted a really good article about how people get sucked into media-induced anger which made me aware that I was pretty gullible.
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Old 07-05-2018, 07:09 PM   #12744 (permalink)
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^ Turnover has been a non-issue in previous admins, but Trump turned it into an issue when he touted himself as a businessman able to get the best people. Every businessman knows that high staff turnover is an indication of either a poor selection process or poor work environment, and is usually attributed to bad management. It's not a big deal, but I still feel it's worth deflating one of Trump's unjustified bragging points.
1. I care about action, not hypocrisy. Shifting on campaign promises is a trademark move of politicians.
2. Government=/=business and viewing it as such engenders ludicrously dangerous policy.
3. It's not a big deal, agreed.
4. Zeroing in on things that aren't a big deal does not reflect positively on you and unfortunately that's extrapolated to represent your side, especially given that so many people have opted for echo chambers that exposure to the other side is far too infrequent.
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Old 07-05-2018, 07:27 PM   #12745 (permalink)
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I guess you could say that it's different since Fox logic representation is no longer the severe minority. Actually, you're right. What we're seeing here is worse. Everybody turned into their dumb uncle at Thanksgiving dinner.
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I think we have a hilariously low IQ president, exceptional in this aspect
True but he's a savant when it comes to manipulation.

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it is genuinely funny how much incompetent **** is always happening, it doesn't call for outrage I guess I could agree with that

it's comedic relief
That's pretty much how I view it.

Best case scenario the presidency is delegitimized (good thing).
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