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Old 07-04-2018, 11:09 AM   #12641 (permalink)
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No he isn't.
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Old 07-04-2018, 11:14 AM   #12642 (permalink)
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TBF he did come from what sounds like a working class Irish area with all the intolerance for other world views that that implies and at least graduate to a form of liberalism. That speaks to something positive about his ability to perceive the world outside of the mores of his culture. He just needs to unlearn a bit more of it.

I don't speak from a lofty position where I throw lightning bolts of shade as I myself have come from a somewhat similar background I imagine and got plenty of programming that I've had to recognize and discard, and a lot of that **** still looms very large in my brain and not just subconsciously. You just can never become complacent as if making some progress you're proud of means you can sit back and pat yourself on the back and say "Mission accomplished!"
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 07-04-2018, 11:17 AM   #12643 (permalink)
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TBF he did come from what sounds like a working class Irish area with all the intolerance for other world views that that implies and at least graduate to a form of liberalism. That speaks to something positive about his ability to perceive the world outside of the mores of his culture. He just needs to unlearn a bit more of it.

I don't speak from a lofty position where I throw lightning bolts of shade as I myself have come from a somewhat similar background I imagine and got plenty of programming that I've had to recognize and discard, and a lot of that **** still looms very large in my brain and not just subconsciously. You just can never become complacent as if making some progress you're proud of means you can sit back and pat yourself on the back and say "Mission accomplished!"
What if you want to?
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Old 07-04-2018, 11:21 AM   #12644 (permalink)
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Except me, of course.
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Old 07-04-2018, 11:22 AM   #12645 (permalink)
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Except me, of course.
It counts as progress if you discard a failure and build a better one.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 07-04-2018, 05:05 PM   #12647 (permalink)
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Oh good lord. It's still alive?

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and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”
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Chula hates Trump supporters for refusing to question their beliefs in the face of logic, and for sticking by him regardless of his ridiculous actions.
Awesome analogy man. You've really upped your game. I can really see how this aligns with the handgun debate.

Ori. You're better than this.

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"Why do people expect me to scrutinize my beliefs, rather than just take the easy road and follow them blindly until I die?"
Like it or not, for a vast majority of people, beliefs become more cemented as the years fly by. And rightly so.

Scrutiny? Been there, done that, long before I joined this forum. You folks think I take this lightly? And that I haven't come to my positions without decades of discussion, research, debate, arguments, and self scrutiny, etc.?

Oh well. Time to rub down the fillet.
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Old 07-04-2018, 05:24 PM   #12649 (permalink)
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And that I haven't come to my positions without decades of discussion, research, debate, arguments, and self scrutiny, etc.?
Are we allowed to answer this honestly?
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Old 07-04-2018, 05:24 PM   #12650 (permalink)
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You know I'm right, Donald.

Age is no excuse. America has enough people whose beliefs "aren't up for debate."
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