The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

Trollheart · 07-03-2018, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I know it’s tradition to ask but under this administration if want to fly the flag half assed just do it. Putin is being buried at Arlington cemetery.

And he's not even dead! He's that hard....

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

It's only a matter of time before someone throws a kitchen knife into a crowd.

And twenty people scramble to make the perfect salad!

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Tool:

1. A handheld device that aids in accomplishing a task.
2. Something (such as an instrument or apparatus) used in performing an operation or necessary in the practice of a vocation or profession

- hunting
- target practice
- sporting competition
- hobby
- self defense

gun shop owners and people who carry around large amounts (to name two) are professions in California where it's legal to carry a gun on you for self defense.

In the right hands guns are extremely safe. I've had mine for over 6-7 years now. First thing was I took training where I bought it. Then I had to take an extensive to show I know all of the safety rules. Then I bought fake bullets (hard plastic) to practice loading, unloading, proper handling, taking it apart clean it and just getting comfortable with it in my hand.

I then had to show the owner that I knew what I was doing before I got a sign off to buy real bullets. Then went to the range a couple of times to get comfortable shooting it and practice my aim.

Trust me, the range supervisor who walks back and forth behind everyone will chew you are new ass he he sees you doing anything wrong. I've seen it. They take gun safety extremely serious for obvious reasons.

Chula, I don't think anyone's saying you carry your gun for anything other than defence, but calling it a tool when it is clearly only intended for one specific purpose is keeping the blinders on. What else can a gun be used for? What else is a gun designed for? What is the intention of just about anyone who goes buying a gun? Hard to argue this one.

**Frownland** · 07-03-2018, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

It's a show of respect and recognition to the survivors of the victims. Has nothing to do with you or me. If you're going to recognize the other shootings you should recognize this one too.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Goddamn Americans and their symbolism.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Tool:

1. A handheld device that aids in accomplishing a task.
2. Something (such as an instrument or apparatus) used in performing an operation or necessary in the practice of a vocation or profession

- hunting
- target practice
- sporting competition
- hobby
- self defense

So there isn't any purpose to them apart from maiming and killing apart from practicing how good you are at maiming and killing. Got it.

And spare me the anecdotal nonsense, I really don't care, Chula.

grindy · 07-03-2018, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Nope. Most people own guns their entire lives without maiming or killing anyone. They're both tools. I could kill you with a baseball bat, a golf club, a rope, as well any one of the number of cooking and sporting knives I own.

Let's agree to disagree and both move on. Neither of us is going to budge.

Grindy ever see what a 9MM hollow point bullet does to a person? The results are as gory and messy as any knife wound.

I was talking about how directly you experience the maiming, not about the consequences themselves.

**Frownland** · 07-03-2018, 08:42 AM

Honestly if someone broke into my house with a knife I'd be more scared of them than if they had a gun. It's close combat situation, the knife can do a lot more damage without even really trying.

Trollheart · 07-03-2018, 08:43 AM

I think the point here, with regard to the difference between knives and guns, is that you go into a shop and buy a knife. Should anyone ask you what you want it for you can legitimately say (whether it's true or not), for chopping veggies, for cutting steak or just for the kitchen. Sure, you can use it for violent purposes, even buy it with that in mind, but that's not the only/primary use for a knife.

With the gun, your options are limited to "for self-defence" or "for settling a score" if you're particularly stupid. You can't say "I'm buying this gun to help me cut veggies or to keep in the kitchen in case I need it or for slicing bread". Just doesn't work. So while a gun may be technically a tool, so is a tank, but you wouldn't use a tank to slice up your aubergines. Well, not unless you wanted them turned to pulp.

Chula Vista · 07-03-2018, 08:52 AM

Troll, did you not read my post?

- hunting
- target practice
- recreation
- sporting
- self defense

**Frownland** · 07-03-2018, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Troll, did you not read my post?

- hunting
- target practice
- recreation
- sporting
- self defense

I practice shooting targets with my tank for sport. It's good recreational fun.

**Janszoon** · 07-03-2018, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Troll, did you not read my post?

- hunting
- target practice
- recreation
- sporting
- self defense

What is the difference between target practice, recreation, and sporting?

Key · 07-03-2018, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Honestly if someone broke into my house with a knife I'd be more scared of them than if they had a gun. It's close combat situation, the knife can do a lot more damage without even really trying.

Pretty much this. Same goes for someone who's really buff. I'd probably be more scared of them because they could legit beat the crap out of me. A knife can also be terrifying because it's so easily concealed. Literally someone could hide it in their shirt sleeve and BAM. Dead.

Key · 07-03-2018, 09:58 AM

I honestly believe I'd just let them do that as well ^ I'd be outta there in seconds. Not risking my life for material possessions.

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07-03-2018, 08:43 AM	#12575 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	I think the point here, with regard to the difference between knives and guns, is that you go into a shop and buy a knife. Should anyone ask you what you want it for you can legitimately say (whether it's true or not), for chopping veggies, for cutting steak or just for the kitchen. Sure, you can use it for violent purposes, even buy it with that in mind, but that's not the only/primary use for a knife. With the gun, your options are limited to "for self-defence" or "for settling a score" if you're particularly stupid. You can't say "I'm buying this gun to help me cut veggies or to keep in the kitchen in case I need it or for slicing bread". Just doesn't work. So while a gun may be technically a tool, so is a tank, but you wouldn't use a tank to slice up your aubergines. Well, not unless you wanted them turned to pulp. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Troll, did you not read my post? - hunting - target practice - recreation - sporting - self defense __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

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07-03-2018, 09:58 AM	#12580 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	I honestly believe I'd just let them do that as well ^ I'd be outta there in seconds. Not risking my life for material possessions.