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Key 06-26-2018 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1966408)
"Having it coming" is no excuse to be a ****ty person in response.

I don't disagree. My point is that it's no surprise that it happened. It'd be no surprise if Donald Trump was treated the same way. If you act ****ty, don't act like it's not deserved when it comes back.

Frownland 06-26-2018 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1966407)
I'm not trying to show hatred.

You're not trying to, you just are.

100% guaranteed that this will hurt the left.

Key 06-26-2018 10:59 AM

Let's also not be blind to the fact that she gets treated like **** all the time. It being in a restaurant just makes it more public.

Anteater 06-26-2018 11:00 AM

The cake situation and this one are completely different. We had a thread on this if I recall: they weren't refused service for being gay.

Sanders is being refused service because she has a particular job position, and was then harassed by the owner after leaving said premises. Have any of you ever been refused service somewhere for a reason like that?

Key 06-26-2018 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1966413)
You're not trying to, you just are.

100% guaranteed that this will hurt the left.

Then it's an angry opinion I guess though I don't agree with that sentiment.

Key 06-26-2018 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1966415)
The cake situation and this one are completely different. We had a thread on this if I recall: they weren't refused service for being gay.

Correct. So let's not compare the two anymore. I only did so because it's the same concept of being within their rights. Otherwise I agree. They are not comparable.

EDIT: I don't agree rhat it wasn't because they were gay. I was saying correct to the first part of your post.

Frownland 06-26-2018 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1966417)
Then it's an angry opinion I guess though I don't agree with that sentiment.

That it'll hurt the left? You don't think that having their political identity threatened like that will galvanize the right? Does this make the left look good?

Chula Vista 06-26-2018 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1966415)
The cake situation and this one are completely different. We had a thread on this if I recall: they weren't refused service for being gay.

Yes they were.

rubber soul 06-26-2018 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1966399)
Fair enough. Personally I find slinging shit in a culture war to be a very bad idea.

I'm going to faint. We actually agree on something :laughing:

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1966401)
I'm just more pro on if someone acts like a ****ty person, they deserve it when it gets thrown back. Not saying iit's right. But she had it coming.

Of course she had it coming. But there are better ways to show displeasure. They could have protested her outside for example.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1966402)
I really don't think it's comparable to that at all. Refusing service to entire groups of people, especially when it is a oppressed minority, contributes to that oppression. Refusing service to some person you think is a twat oppresses nobody. If you ran a business would you want to be forced by law to serve Ted Bundy?

Not really, but look at it this way. If I can refuse Ted Bundy service for being, well, Ted Bundy, somebody could refuse Bernie Sanders service for being a socialist. It works both ways.

Key 06-26-2018 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1966421)
That it'll hurt the left? You don't think that having their political identity threatened like that will galvanize the right? Does this make the left look good?

Politics doesn't even have to be involved here. She's a ****ty person in general. If she wasn't in politics I'd think the same thing. Maybe it will hurt the left. I'll give you that one.


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