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Old 06-10-2018, 11:24 PM   #12111 (permalink)
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Very telling.
Very revealing.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:27 PM   #12112 (permalink)
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Very revealing.
Indeed. Our expectations of human behaviour is largely derived from our own behaviour after all.
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:43 PM   #12113 (permalink)
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Back to the real world.

Linda left on 1/2. I spoke with her on 1/8. She pretty much said it's over and that there's nothing that either of us can do to salvage things. I hung up, ran to the bathroom, and threw up.

Little backstory.

As a mother and a father we had to deal with a solid 5 years of a very messed up adult child doing lots of self destructive, and family destructive ****. We fell right into the 'Karpman Drama Triangle' because Mike was so good at playing his mom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karpman_drama_triangle

The fact that she always chose his side of the triangle over mine for so long, even though the dude was ****ing us both over, destroyed the boyfriend/girlfriend aspect of our relationship.

He finally settled down and then all of the work **** hit the fan. More stress and finacial crap added on top like a frosting.

We were basically only staying together because we weren't in a financial position to do anything else. More roomates than husband and wife. She reached out to her brother in Tucson who offered her free room and board.

She took the plunge and ran away. She didn't even tell the kids. I have no ill will towards her. I completely understand why she had to take a shot of starting over being happy. (I haven't been happy for years either)

We've been keeping touch via IM and it's been very civil and caring. We'd both would still kill or die for each other. 38 years together will do that.

But this has to play out with no pressure. It's been less than 2 weeks. What will be, will be.

TL;DR

Life sucks sometimes.



Too bad you don’t have a time machine

But on to the glory years: A Sexless Death Part 2 (The Winnebago)
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Old 06-11-2018, 12:44 AM   #12114 (permalink)
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Ad hominem is so boring.
And OH's rhetoric of him being blind because he's not a total pessimist is not just as lazy and boring?

It's not like DWV is denying that we're ****ed by our current capitalist system, he's just saying that some people **** themselves over by giving up in the first place.

And I find it completely ironic because they'll **** on the downtrodden just as much as anybody else. Mock people for working fast food or mock people for not having a proper education. Like, oh, wow, you recognize that this system ****s us over but you lack the self awareness to realize that both of ya'll are cogs in the machine.

At least I can respect Elph because he seems to be trying rather than just bitching. But at what point has OH's overwhelming sense of pessimism kept him where he's at? He seems to get pissy at anybody trying to enjoy what little they have as if they're supposed to be as miserable as him. It's as if everything he said about that 'oh, damn!' post about Chula is filled with a lot of projection because the only difference between these two bitter old men is that OH embraced his misery and is much funnier when dispersing it. Of course many of us are extremely limited in what we can do to better our positions but at what point are people essentially stripping themselves of that power by thrusting the accountability for their own lives at everything but themselves?
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I don’t think you’ve had success. I think you’re a bitter as hell mean drunk weakling. I think you’re alone because you’re an ******* and you’re an ******* because you’re a failure. You’re an emotional failure. A nice guy when he’s sober in the morning and by far the most vile and angry poster once the sauce kicks in. Over and over again you’ve encouraged others to kill themselves and you go to straight to the extreme like an erratic drunk. After 40 years your wife just rolls no goodbye. That **** doesn’t just happen. Like everyone on here has seen your cantankerousness. Then you’re suddenly Mr. Sunshine again. People want to be free of you and by people I mean your family. But you blackmail them into forced interaction feigning ridiculous health concerns and posting horrible **** on Facebook. Constantly judgmental and maudlin and sentimental and angry and dishing it out but not taking it. There’s volumes of ridicule on here targeted directly at you because you bring it on yourself with your repugnant ways everyone in your personal sphere has rejected.
Basically a load of unfounded, mean spirited bull****. I'd give you a 14 day cool-down if I had the ban hammer. No hesitation.
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Bitch, you’re in Utah.
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Indeed. Our expectations of human behaviour is largely derived from our own behaviour after all.
Not that anyone cares, but there's a great Danish proverb that says exactly this.

"The thief assumes everyone steals".
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Basically a load of unfounded, mean spirited bull****. I'd give you a 14 day cool-down if I had the ban hammer. No hesitation.
Give it to them both. Chula does the same ****. It's just easier to go for the throat with a guy that pours his heart out on here all the time.
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Bitch, you’re in Utah.
A state that you hardly know **** about as I have already proven.
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Give it to them both. Chula does the same ****. It's just easier to go for the throat with a guy that pours his heart out on here all the time.
I don't agree. I've seen Chula get a little too combative, but usually when he's being knowingly provoked. OH just goes for the jugular for no reason other than he enjoys being a douche.
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