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Old 06-04-2018, 12:43 PM   #11811 (permalink)
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Totally f'ucked up.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/04/polit...urt/index.html

Does this business not profit from publicly funded roads, electricity, gas, water, etc.? They have to pay their monthly usage, but who laid the infrastructure? Didn't gay people help fund those things.

Total BS ruling on every level.
I support the ruling. His shop. His cakes.

Maybe I wouldn’t want to make cakes for Christians. I’d rather live in a world where I didn’t have to.

Plus, I think they targeted this guy. It was as dirty politics from the get go.
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Old 06-04-2018, 12:45 PM   #11812 (permalink)
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Totally f'ucked up.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/04/polit...urt/index.html

Does this business not profit from publicly funded roads, electricity, gas, water, etc.? They have to pay their monthly usage, but who laid the infrastructure? Didn't gay people help fund those things.

Total BS ruling on every level.
Don't see anything wrong with this.
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Old 06-04-2018, 12:51 PM   #11813 (permalink)
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If you sell a commodity, where your clients stick their dicks isn't an issue.
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Old 06-04-2018, 12:53 PM   #11814 (permalink)
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I support the ruling. His shop. His cakes.

Maybe I wouldn’t want to make cakes for Christians. I’d rather live in a world where I didn’t have to.

Plus, I think they targeted this guy. It was as dirty politics from the get go.
As much as I think the cake shop owner is just another old f*ck that needs to die off with his archaic beliefs...they're his beliefs. I wish the court ruled the other way but I can't really fault them for not. You can't MAKE a private business make cakes for people they don't want to make cakes for, no matter how ignorant they may be.

If I was the couple I'd just go to another shop and give them my money. Who'd want to go to that shop anyway?
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Old 06-04-2018, 12:55 PM   #11815 (permalink)
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If I was the couple I'd just go to another shop and give them my money. Who'd want to go to that shop anyway?
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Old 06-04-2018, 12:56 PM   #11816 (permalink)
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As much as I think the cake shop owner is just another old f*ck that needs to die off with his archaic beliefs...they're his beliefs.
And that's all they be unless we're feeling like violating the Establishment clause.

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I wish the court ruled the other way but I can't really fault them for not. You can't MAKE a private business make cakes for people they don't want to make cakes for, no matter how ignorant they may be.
If you can force a business to comply with ADA mandates by installing a $5k ramp, then you can force a business to make money on a cake.

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If I was the couple I'd just go to another shop and give them my money. Who'd want to go to that shop anyway?
What if it's the only shop in town?
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Old 06-04-2018, 01:03 PM   #11817 (permalink)
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Unfortunately we live in a country where religious beliefs are still protected. According to our current state of law, the courts made the correct ruling. Now it's time to adjust the laws.

Those people should have had their cake but our still backwards views on religious superiority can still prevent them from getting it.
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Old 06-04-2018, 01:03 PM   #11818 (permalink)
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I can understand both sides however I do think the guy has the freedom to reject any inquiries he gets since it is his business. Would I personally use his service now? Probably not. But that doesn't mean other people shouldnt. Yeah it's a ****ty thing but he didn't force the wo men to go to his shop.
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I can understand both sides however I do think the guy has the freedom to reject any inquiries he gets since it is his business.
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Unfortunately we live in a country where religious beliefs are still protected. According to our current state of law, the courts made the correct ruling. Now it's time to adjust the laws.

Those people should have had their cake but our still backwards views on religious superiority can still prevent them from getting it.
I would argue that it's unconstitutional because the court has decided that his religious beliefs are more valuable than equal treatment, which is in turn endorsing a religion, violating the establishment clause. Cases like this are why we have both freedom of religion and freedom from religion.
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