Change your username to PompwsAssclowd

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Actually it's going to be me if you don't chill the fuck out.

Do it Exo!!!

lol what's up with Chula where has all the abuse come from?

As to the question, are Christians atheist? Well, here's one. I mean, the thing is, all my family were baptised, and when you're a baby you neither have the experience nor the ability to resist. I am a Christian, by definition, and a Roman Catholic by upbringing, but I don't believe in God. Or god. Whatever. I kind of wish He was real, as I'd love to think there's something to look forward to at the end of all this, but I really really doubt it.

At the same time, I'm not so arrogant as to believe that I know everything and can definitely say with total conviction that there is no God. What do I know? Maybe we're all the dream of some frustrated poster on a forum in an alternative universe. Or maybe we're smaller than ants and just think we're a dominant species. Or maybe none of us exist and we're all characters in a play. The point is, there is no way to empirically prove anything about what happens after death, not until someone comes back and gives us the skinny.

But personally, as I say: Christian, Catholic and also atheist.

You can identity as a Christian and be atheist.

Unless you're currently practicing, you're neither a Christian nor a Catholic. Saying that you were raised as such is fine, but if you're an atheist, that makes you an apostate.

It's a pretty old discussion that I bet we've both had several times, but atheism is the less arrogant choice of the two if you're going off of evidence alone. Most notions of a god don't restrict it to the afterlife, either.

I don't identify as a Christian, I just am one. Not by choice.
I pretty much stopped going to mass once I realised I could (and my mother was surprisingly understanding about it, though I always feel she was more than a little disappointed I took that stance) and though I like to think that both she and my aunt are now in a better place, when I visit her grave I do so for Karen: I personally get nothing out of it spiritually.

Bolded: does that mean I have cancer? :laughing:

Maybe I'm just keeping my options open. As Ben Elton says, I keep just a tiny bit of belief there just in case ... (hammering at the gates) "Let me in you bastards! I believe!" :laughing:

I once wrote a story, based off a dream I had, called "Beggar at the Gates", where I died and was not let into Heaven cos I didn't believe. My mother was trying to intercede with God, who said I could come in if I believed. But I saw nothing in front of me (you only see Heaven if you Believe, apparently) and refused. What a bastard, that God, huh?