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DwnWthVwls 06-03-2018 12:30 PM

Why don't you believe in a god, Chula? Also, why don't you believe in the tooth fairy?

I'll tell you why I don't: Neither claim has met it's burden of proof. I'm not convinced because there is not sufficient evidence.

Frownland 06-03-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1957775)
Any talk of a god goes in one ear and out the other. I've never had to stand on a soapbox and officially reject the concept.

Wait, so you don't think that you can reject an idea without making a public display about it?

Chula Vista 06-03-2018 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1957777)
Why don't you believe in a god, Chula? Also, why don't you believe in the tooth fairy?

Look up fable. By their very definition they are not meant to be believed or disbelieved in the first place.

Frownland 06-03-2018 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1957780)
Look up fable. By their very definition they are not meant to be believed or disbelieved in the first place.

How very avant-garde of you.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1957769)
As an atheist I don't see it this way. How can I reject something if I 100% believe it's not even there to begin with? Kinda like saying the rejection of the tooth fairy claim.


DwnWthVwls 06-03-2018 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1957780)
Look up fable. By their very definition they are not meant to be believed or disbelieved in the first place.

Thanks, have fun with Frown. I'm stepping out.

I'll just leave you with this. God is not a fable, you may consider the stories surrounding it's existence to be fables but the agent itself is not a story. Athiesm is the rejection of the entity/agent whatever, not the rejection of religious text.

Chula Vista 06-03-2018 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1957782)
God is not a fable, you may consider the stories surrounding it's existence to be fables but the agent itself is not a story.

So then, Santa Claus is not a fable?

**** frowny. He's on ignore. Not in the mood for his usual BS.

Atheism is not the rejection of, it's the total disbelief of.

Frownland 06-03-2018 12:58 PM

Rejecting the very premise of god existing sounds like rejection to me.

OccultHawk 06-03-2018 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1957749)
I call it "practical". You seem to think humanity is just ****ed, no exceptions. I think humanity will inevitably reach the next level but a lot of people will die during the transition. For example, even though it appears that most of what Ray Kurzweil talks about in regards to solar energy and tech are awesome and will happen unless a meteor wipes us out tomorrow, at best we're still over a decade away from the free market reflecting that reality. Are the signs there? Yeah. Am I going to personally benefit before I'm 40? That's a trickier bet.

We might make it. A huge die off in the transition is what I’m talking about as well.

I like Kurzweil too. He’s fun but he gets really carried away. From what you’re saying you and I both think it’s going to be a rockier path than Ray.

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Atheism is one thing, the rejection of the god claim. Anything else is on the individual. Your misrepresentations are funny
ok yeah - I meant “some” atheists

The way you scratch and claw for tiny little holes to poke at is the funny thing

and then Chula pulled the same maneuver on you and you’re off on that bit of pointless minutiae

DwnWthVwls 06-03-2018 01:05 PM

When you're wrong or misrepresenting a position I'm going to call it out. I'd hope you do the same to me.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1957783)
Atheism is not the rejection of, it's the total disbelief of.

No it isn't. And if you're going to take the position of a hard athiest that says "God doesn't exist", you better have some evidence or I'll reject that claim as well.

OccultHawk 06-03-2018 01:12 PM

Chula you’re obviously right on a technicality

You can’t reject something that doesn’t exist

Don’t bother going down this rabbit hole arguing whether atheism is the rejection of god or the idea that there is a god

My imaginary friend doesn’t want you to and I don’t want him to feel rejected


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