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In America's new post-truth political climate, I think it's useful to be aware of this process:-
From what I've seen, this is exactly what's happened on these topics:- Birtherism Inaugural crowd-size Phone tapping by Obama Wall construction and Trump's claim that "we have no border" etc, etc. Spygate Feel free to add any that I've missed.
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#11272 (permalink) |
SOPHIE FOREVER
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An honourable move.
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the nut jobs did come out of the woodwork when they changed the words to it recently though it went from “in all thy sons command” to “in all of us command” idk why anyone cares about the song, it don’t even bump in the whip
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#11276 (permalink) |
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nah it wasn’t “gender neutral”
i don’t necessarily see why it matters enough for them to change it but in the same breath i’m not going to lose sleep over a song.
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The problem that I've seen out there isn't whether or not Trump's lies can be disproven. Depending on what he's talking about (such as climate change), they easily can be refruted. But when the media take him out of context (like his "animals" comment) or try to dismiss / suppress other things he says that actually have a basis in truth (such as his observations about Sweden and Germany's inability to integrate refugee populations effectively), then you have a problem where you know Trump's opponents in the media are willing to lie or obfuscate when its convenient as much as he does. That's where the real divide is taking place.
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What's unusual about Trump is that the stories so often start out with a blatant lie.
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I have no idea about Pizzagate or Snowdon because they predate my interest in American politics, I'm afraid. ![]() Quote:
About Sweden's and Germany's problems, didn't Trump start talking about a non-existant terrorist attack? I can't quite remember, and that's indicative of the problem at the moment: complex story lines that people can't quite remember, so that when it comes to election time people start thinking, "Yeah, wasn't there something about Dems phone-tapping Trump...?", which serves as a propaganda win for Trump. I'm sure it works both ways to some extent, that no party or biased media is innocent, but this statistic has been widely quoted, and afaik not seriously refuted:- https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-ne...e-of-his-best/
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Dumbass.
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