The Wow I Can't Believe That News Story Thread

The Batlord · 05-23-2018, 03:22 PM

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New York parents win legal battle to evict son, 30 - BBC News

**Janszoon** · 05-23-2018, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Chula Vista · 05-23-2018, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

the point is to say that Chula's apparent view of the world as China and Russia as the Bad Guys that superhero America had to stop was cute in the 50's-70's and is now just downright naive knowing what we know in the 21st century

Don't deny this. It wasn't just me though. The entire country got major behind WWII and the Korean war. Vietnam was the tipping point.

**Frownland** · 05-23-2018, 04:54 PM

We are aware that pro-state propaganda has been very prominent and successful in American history.

The Batlord · 05-23-2018, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Don't deny this. It wasn't just me though. The entire country got major behind WWII and the Korean war. Vietnam was the tipping point.

"I was just following orders."

OccultHawk · 05-23-2018, 05:53 PM

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I can't necessarily fault someone who fought in the later parts of the Korean War or the early parts of Vietnam, that's a subjective moral call I guess, most veterans I've talked to ended up going because they had few options at home, if you were on your way to college they'd be less likely to draft you

It’s not your place to offer forgiveness though. The loved ones of the millions (hundreds of thousands at least) of people murdered, the people still living with deformities caused by agent orange, the legacy of genocide in Cambodia, the everlasting poverty of Laos... these are the victims - who had justifiable cause to inflict these horrors isn’t for you to say.

OccultHawk · 05-23-2018, 07:51 PM

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but are the American soldiers not victims of nationalism and propaganda favoring the elites same as anyone else

That’s something their victims can consider if they choose.

Chula Vista · 05-23-2018, 08:32 PM

Half a million+ Americans were killed or wounded in Vietnam. And we didn't start the war.

Over 61 million Americans and their allies died in WWII. Five times more than Germany, Japan, and their allies. And we didn't start the war.

Stop being so holier than thou, and with the attempts at guilt shaming members here.

OccultHawk · 05-23-2018, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Half a million+ Americans were killed or wounded in Vietnam. And we didn't start the war.

Over 61 million Americans and their allies died in WWII. Five times more than Germany, Japan, and their allies. And we didn't start the war.

Stop being so holier than thou, and with the attempts at guilt shaming members here.

I understand you’re defensive because your father is a murderer and a war criminal. It only brings shame on you because you try to justify it.

Chula Vista · 05-23-2018, 08:56 PM

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I understand you’re defensive because your father is a murderer and a war criminal.

He was a radio operator and never fired a gun, but thanks for the low blow. Wouldn't expect anything else from you. How about you? Got any relatives that fired a gun in a war - I'd like a chance at taking a shot back at you.

You say we're close in age but I'm beginning to not believe you. You come across more like a much younger arrogant punk who doesn't understand the world that we live in - or lived in decades ago.

Tell me, why you always have to go personal when you are pushed up against a wall? Pretty damn lame for a supposed "adult".

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Half a million+ Americans were killed or wounded in Vietnam. And we didn't start the war. Over 61 million Americans and their allies died in WWII. Five times more than Germany, Japan, and their allies. And we didn't start the war. Stop being so holier than thou, and with the attempts at guilt shaming members here. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”