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Old 05-22-2018, 05:54 PM   #11061 (permalink)
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McCain went into a country with the express purpose of murdering its citizens and was surprised when they didn't like that.
Refixed that for you since Lisna got it twisted.
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Old 05-22-2018, 05:55 PM   #11062 (permalink)
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Old 05-22-2018, 05:56 PM   #11063 (permalink)
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Yep, murder is inherent to war. That's why I consider joining the military to be an endorsement of murder and why I view it as a morally bankrupt decision that I can't support.

"Eh, that's war" is as poor of a justification for murder as "but I was mad". Behind every weapon that kills a human in war sits another human actively making the decision to murder someone.
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Old 05-22-2018, 06:38 PM   #11064 (permalink)
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Make crusading against Zionism seem so ridiculous that it'll push everyone who reads it a die hard Zionist. I gotta say, that's a pretty genius strategy.
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Old 05-22-2018, 06:53 PM   #11065 (permalink)
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Refixed that for you since Lisna got it twisted.
^ TBperfectlyH, I think you should consider re-refixing it. I changed it to read "the express purpose of bombing pre-selected military targets" after checking Wikipedia:-
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.... and joined Operation Rolling Thunder, the 1965–1968 air interdiction and strategic bombing campaign against North Vietnam.[83][84] The alpha strikes flown from Forrestal were against specific, pre-selected targets such as arms depots, factories, and bridges.[83]
^ That right there is literally the express purpose, complete with the citations that wiki so loves. Show me the military order that says "murdering citizens" and I'll concede that you're right.

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France banned guns and a man just fired an AK-47 into a crowd. Gun laws don't work.
^ Actually, [MERIT], as a general rule they do work, but obviously they don't eliminate the problem completely. You might as well expect that there'll never ever be another drunk-driving accident because of the drunk-driving laws.
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Old 05-22-2018, 06:57 PM   #11066 (permalink)
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^ TBperfectlyH, I think you should consider re-refixing it. I changed it to read "the express purpose of bombing pre-selected military targets" after checking Wikipedia:-


^ That right there is literally the express purpose, complete with the citations that wiki so loves. Show me the military order that says "murdering citizens" and I'll concede that you're right.
Did citizens of Vietnam die in those targeted attacks?
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Old 05-22-2018, 07:08 PM   #11067 (permalink)
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Did citizens of Vietnam die in those targeted attacks?
^ Yes, sadly, I'm sure they did, but that doesn't make it the "express purpose", according to my understanding of that phrase.

EDIT: Yeah, of course, the My Lai massacre was horrific. Why are you posting emotive pictures that involved neither John McCain nor bombing raids, afaik ? Have we moved on to a general-horrors-of-war debate?
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Old 05-22-2018, 07:10 PM   #11069 (permalink)
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^ Yes, sadly, I'm sure they did, but that doesn't make it the "express purpose", according to my understanding of the phrase.
Maybe you should go dig up the corpses and see if they give a f uck?
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EDIT: Yeah, of course, the My Lai massacre was horrific. Why are you posting emotive pictures that involved neither John McCain nor bombing raids, afaik ? Have we moved on to a general-horrors-of-war debate?
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