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Old 05-22-2018, 12:15 PM   #11001 (permalink)
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:26 PM   #11002 (permalink)
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Who ****ing cares? It's torture. It's supposed to hurt a lot. If possible don't say anything that gets someone killed I guess, but otherwise I'm game for whatever they want me to say or sign without them even having to lay a hand on me. I'd almost certainly end up doing it anyway given enough time and punishment. Just let me the **** out.
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:58 PM   #11003 (permalink)
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Took 5.5 years of hell (over 2,000 days) before McCain reached his breaking point. Pretty damn honorable in my book.

Trump on the other hand....

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After denigrating McCain during remarks today at the Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa, Trump faced reporters’s questions about his lack of service. Asked about the last of his five deferments, Trump said that his disqualifying medical condition was a bone spur in one of his feet (he could not remember which one). It is unknown on which golf course the injury was sustained.
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Old 05-22-2018, 01:11 PM   #11004 (permalink)
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Took 5.5 years of hell (over 2,000 days) before McCain reached his breaking point. Pretty damn honorable in my book.

Trump on the other hand....
Hey hey hey now! Trump served his country. Club.
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Old 05-22-2018, 01:24 PM   #11005 (permalink)
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McCain went into a country with the express purpose of murdering its citizens and was surprised when they didn't like that.

Trump successfully abstained from becoming a war criminal because of his wealth.

Guess which one is more ethical?
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Old 05-22-2018, 01:32 PM   #11006 (permalink)
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McCain went into a country with the express purpose of murdering its citizens and was surprised when they didn't like that.

Trump successfully abstained from becoming a war criminal because of his wealth.
Nice spin.
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Old 05-22-2018, 01:37 PM   #11007 (permalink)
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Trump's pretty ****in unlikable as it stands, you don't need to fetishize the military to help out with that.
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Old 05-22-2018, 01:46 PM   #11008 (permalink)
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McCain went into a country with the express purpose of murdering its citizens and was surprised when they didn't like that.

Trump successfully abstained from becoming a war criminal because of his wealth.

Guess which one is more ethical?
Even online you’re one of the only persons I’ve ever known who comes out with the truth about that. Respect.
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Old 05-22-2018, 01:51 PM   #11009 (permalink)
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War is hell. Sometimes war is necessary. Vietnam ended up being a total cluster **** but the US got involved for a solid reason. China and Russia were really pushing the spread of communism through the North Vietnamese, which during the cold war was seen as a very dangerous thing by the US and its allies.

Communism during the 60s was viewed very differently than it is today.
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Old 05-22-2018, 01:52 PM   #11010 (permalink)
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You'd defend Hitler if it meant ****ting on Trump.
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