Barnard17

Kick the cat. Palestinians didn't gas the Jews why should they suffer the consequences? The terrorist organisations represent a select few; why are all Palestinians collectively responsible and punishable for the actions of so little? Why should surrounding countries have to take millions into their infrastructure as a result of poor British handling of the situation? Countries such as Jordan and Syria (which were created to in such a fashion to ease foreign Governance, Israel was an irrelevance at the time of their formation) DID take on refugees (have you bothered to look up the stats on this?) but amazingly nations just coming out of the rule of a foreign empire and trying to set themselves up tend to find it hard to handle an influx of five million. Hell even America with all the space it has wouldn't really know what to do with 5 million asylum seekers. Why is it the responsibility of the surrounding nations to pick up the fallout caused by Israeli methods?

Did you bother looking into WHY the woman felt the necessity to blow herself and a load of other people up? Have you bothered to compare the number of Palestinian lives lost (both to Israeli incursions AND their "own" suicide bombers) compared to those of Israelis lost to suicide bombers and terrorist militias? Have you looked into the number of suicide bombings triggered by events caused by the Security Fence? Have you looked into the effect that the illegal settlements and their supply roads have on the Palestinian quality of life?

There would be no problem if the Zionists had accepted the offer of an unpopulated area of Uganda. I say again, how would America respond if it's entire population was told they had two, undeveloped (comparatively), economically disadvantages states that they all had to move to and live in because Bosnians and Chechens need somewhere safe to live away from the oppressive Russian Government.

Protip: Not just Jews suffered in the holocaust. Shall we give the homosexuals Greece, because it's their historical homeland? Furthermore the holocaust isn't the only Genocide; giving a country to each group that has suffered is unrealistic and inane.

Tl;dr: as I've said, I'm bored of debating with Jews who think Israel shits whippy ice cream.
Because it's obvious you didn't bother to do a single of the google searches (whippy ice cream tastes a whole lot nicer before people tell you it's made with the same chemicals they put in nappies), this is my last post directed as a response to you in this thread. I'll leave you with the easier task of googling the phrase "Sabra and Shatila". If you think you have a good stomach you can even try an image search.

jibber

i'll agree with fal on this on certain points: israel is by no means a victim, they contributed to the violence that has been going on for years as much as the palstinians have, and that the main cause of the whole mess was that the british mishandled the situation. however, fal is leaving quite a few points out.

When israel first started accepting refugees, they incorporated them into existing jewish communities that had already been bought. when they started looking for their own independant state, that's when violence erupted from both sides. the UN voted for partition, which left part of palestine to the jews, at this, arab nations invaded the country, intent on killing them off and getting them out of palestine. israel fought back, and as a result of the war, palestine was faced with an enormous refugee problem when jewish forces captured and occupied previously arab settlements. THIS is probably where the main point of the argument takes place. was it fair game for israel to keep the spoils of a war so to speak? or should they have allowed the palestinian refugees back in their homes when "peace" was established.

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sleepy jack

I care about Israel personally because of this.

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sleepy jack

Does anyone know if Israel actually has any local industry? Or do they just sit around rolling in the Benjamins and bombing Muslims?

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ProggyMan

Israel has a huge tourism industry, invented cell phones, acne cream and is basically one of the epicenters of technology.

FireInCairo

Israel Should most definitely exist, but as to it's location, no matter how holy it is, it's not ideally positioned for peace.

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Barnard17

Invented the Uzi too, and have made massive technological military advancements in their time. Still don't have a strong enough economy to support their First World way of life without the considerable U.S. subsidies they receive.

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CAPTAIN CAVEMAN

acne cream = epicentre of technology?

not only is that assertion laughable, i am pretty sure you are wrong about cell phones being invented by an israeli

TheBig3

By the by, we were english then, and you taxed the **** out of our tea. You homelanders never respected the colonies. We went for the gut.

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sleepy jack

Actually Eli Whitney had created a machine to boil the entire ocean (using only guns) for the tea we threw in. It was a peace offering from the Colonists to King George, not their fault you Brits were too thick to get it.

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