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bruise_violet 04-13-2008 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan (Post 468908)
So simply being a muslim isn't a valid enough reason to hate someone? Why is that? What dictates validity of feelings?

No, of course it is not.

If the Muslim was a wife beater, then sure hate the bastard, but don't bring up his religion.

Being a Muslim is not something you can judge a character on.

WHY are you so idiotic?

655321 04-13-2008 03:11 PM

i supose if you want to be just another stereotypical ignorant-intolerant-blind westerner that could be a good enough reason

simplephysics 04-13-2008 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan (Post 468908)
So simply being a muslim isn't a valid enough reason to hate someone? Why is that? What dictates validity of feelings?

Because hating someone for no reason other than "just because" is ignorance in the highest degree.

bruise_violet 04-13-2008 03:13 PM

Would it be hypocritical of me to say that Unfan is a complete and utter idiot because of his views?

Miltamec Soundsquinaez 04-13-2008 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan (Post 468902)
So by your admittance its okay to hate a subset of people based on a characteristic, aka discriminate against wife beaters, but not muslims. Why should muslims get special treatment over wife beaters?

How about the fact that their name identifies them exemplifying reproachable behavior.

A wife beater is someone who carries out physical abuse on their wife, which I think we can all agree that it's anti-progressive because it leads the woman to feeling physical pain, and having lower self-esteem, and it enables the wife-beater to stay stuck in the same controlling rut, which leads him to lower self-esteem. Meanwhile, a Muslim is only a person who follows the religion of Islam, and there is absolutely nothing inherently wrong with that.

bruise_violet 04-13-2008 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 468916)
How about the fact that their name identifies them exemplifying reproachable behavior.

A wife beater is someone who carries out physical abuse on their wife, which I think we can all agree that it's anti-progressive because it leads the woman to feeling physical pain, and having lower self-esteem, and it enables the wife-beater to stay stuck in the same controlling rut, which leads him to lower self-esteem. Meanwhile, a Muslim is only a person who follows the religion of Islam, and there is absolutely nothing inherently wrong with that.

Not to mention the majority of them are good people unfortunately tarred with the same brush of those who are radical and extremist...

'I am not a terrorist, please do not arrest me' Vivienne Westwood.

The Unfan 04-13-2008 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 468916)
Meanwhile, a Muslim is only a person who follows the religion of Islam, and there is absolutely nothing inherently wrong with that.

Not "wrong" persay because a behavior can't be wrong since a behavior is always what it is. On the other hand, it can be subjectively bad, and since subjectivity is the very nature of what we're talking about its still a valid thought. Why is viewing something as bad so bad?

bruise_violet 04-13-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan (Post 468920)
Not "wrong" persay because a behavior can't be wrong since a behavior is always what it is. On the other hand, it can be subjectively bad, and since subjectivity is the very nature of what we're talking about its still a valid thought. Why is viewing something as bad so bad?

Hate leads on to hate crimes.

I vote for you to shut up.

655321 04-13-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bruise_violet (Post 468915)
Would it be hypocritical of me to say that Unfan is a complete and utter idiot because of his views?

yes but acceptable

bruise_violet 04-13-2008 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 655321 (Post 468924)
yes but acceptable

ah good I can live with being a hypocrite in this instance.


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