how else do countries get overthrown?

You mean governments? Well, people have been overthrowing governments in Latin America for decades now, but I don't see their situation improving...meaning, it takes a lot to better the economic situation of a certain country. Most people can't wait that long to improve their lives...

Oh and by the way...:
You really can't spare those 11 dollars?

Who is this Roger you speak of??

This is my take on immigration: The government does not have the right to prevent anyone from going anywhere. period. Especially not when all they are trying to do is make enough money to feed their families. All us Americans are so facking decadent and lazy it would be good for us to have a slight drain in our economy anyway.

first that study is almost a decade old,..
and second thats documented cases

Ok, do you have any recent relevant data?

i regret that i dont have numbers right here in front of me,.....
let me see what i can find you

Slightly off topic but still relevant. The three things all first world countries have are technological wealth, a strong medical field, and good crop resources. These three things create the most job opportunities and long term markets. So I theorize that if we want to actually help Mexicans in the long run, we'd be better off helping them in the technological and scientific fields, including medical. Simply by introducing genetically engineered crops it'd probably create a market boom and create new job opportunities. Now imagine what other sciences could bring and you'd have them doing well. For a country to succeed it needs to be up to date on the evergrowing markets, and those markets are rooted in science. Also, another financially stable country would help commerce and better global economy so it helps more than just the mexicans in a way.

So if honestly helping other people is what we want to do than I'd suggest offering them some of what keeps the top nations on top. If we want to fix immigration laws, I'd say be more lax about it. If we are to be the land of the free, as we often suggest, I'd say being more open to immigration would be a positive thing.

Also, I'd be up for spending 11 dollars to help a stranger.

Yeah I wasn't sure what the implication was here either.

But since I'm the devils advocate. Doesn't it make sense that the country with the money and the health care system and the workers benefits gets the land?

Or did you want them to just have more land they didn't want to be in. Or maybe you just wanted Oklahoma to be a border state?

Is your problem with our immigration policy or is it with our manifest destiny?

I think she said earlier that her problem is with manifest destiny but I'll let her go into more detail about it

also The Unfan....that's a good idea in theory but there would also have to be an education system in place to support those technical professions