Immigration (country, American, track, quote, history)

adidasss · 03-04-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ComingUpRoses

immigrants work like 10 times harder than any american citizen. they take the jobs we don't want, and they aren't paid well either. We should at least respect that if not anything else

Well that's what I always thought, but maybe there's something else to it...*unsure*

sleepy jack · 03-04-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah

when you say 'we' what exactly are you refering to? and call it what you will,...i know what it is

as for texas joining the union, i'm not denying that slave votes might have had a hand in the vote,....but the issue of texas's independence happened about a decade before we even considered joining the union,...so to say that had it not been for slaves we would have automatically been a 'state' is preposterous

I find your attitude towards Mexicans funny considering your signature.

right-track · 03-04-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah

that was a different time,....and a different situation

texas was a territory,....and likening texas' independance to the imagrations acts of today is ignorant,....sorry right track, i really like you and normally agree with you, but in this case,....i just think your wrong

Fair enough.
I just think the whole attitude to immigrants seems a little hypocritical.

Your thread on the little Mexican boy has spawned a monster topic.

simplephysics · 03-04-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track

Fair enough.
I just think the whole attitude to immigrants seems a little hypocritical.

Your thread on the little Mexican boy has spawned a monster topic.

because its alot hypocritical.
America has a good way of enscrewing the whole "Do as i say and not as I do" thing

savannah · 03-04-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

I thought illegal immigrants aren't in the system therefore the government doesn't actually spend any money on them...*unsure*
Are you saying all or most illegal immigrants are lazy and live off the state somehow? I'm really rather ignorant here so don't take this the wrong way, I really want to know...

no sir,..i'm not saying that at all,...

in fact, when i was in high school i sold peaches at a road side stand during the summer,......there is a large orchard in the town i grew up, and most high school kids did the same,....
because of this i was around many of the illegal immigrant workers,.....they would come here for the season and make enough money to live in mexico for the rest of the year,......the same workers would come back year after year, and after awhile i built up friendships with many of them,....they were all great, hardworking, family guys who were just tryin to make some money to feed their wives and kids,.....and while i find that honorable,....and like many of them,....it is still wrong

as for paying for them,.....the majority of revenue that is spent on them is health care,.....also, most of them will buy illegal social security numbers,....they often obtain welfare this way,....
so we are paying for them,....

sweet_nothing · 03-04-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

Than why bother repeating it?

IDK, wasn't thinking clearly. This same debate happened on the last community i was on, did not end well. Facist moderators ended up banning people who think differently than them.

savannah · 03-04-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill

I find your attitude towards Mexicans funny considering your signature.

as i find your attitude funny seeing as how your not even old enough to vote,...fight for your country,.....nor have you been in the work force long enough to see your hard earned tax dollars ill spent

swim · 03-04-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah

when you say 'we' what exactly are you refering to? and call it what you will,...i know what it is

as for texas joining the union, i'm not denying that slave votes might have had a hand in the vote,....but the issue of texas's independence happened about a decade before we even considered joining the union,...so to say that had it not been for slaves we would have automatically been a 'state' is preposterous

OK OK, I was really talking about the Mexican war, you know the James K. Polk thing where we got california and everything and the border was pushed to rio grande. I hate Manifest Destiny. I think the Texas Revolution is a different monster while I believe that people moving there as soon as Mexico won it's independence is wrong I also believe in Popular Sovereignty.

right-track · 03-04-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ComingUpRoses

because its alot hypocritical.
America has a good way of enscrewing the whole "Do as i say and not as I do" thing

I was toning my stance down. It seems savannah has enough on her plate without me adding to it.

sleepy jack · 03-04-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah

as i find your attitude funny seeing as how your not even old enough to vote,...fight for your country,.....nor have you been in the work force long enough to see your hard earned tax dollars ill spent

I'm sorry as an American citizen I thought I had freedom of speech or at least the freedom to recite history which everyone seems to be conveniently ignoring. Jack Kerouac would be disgusted with your attitude.