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savannah 03-04-2008 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 451046)
Or take it by force.
that was a different time,....and a different situation

texas was a territory,....and likening texas' independance to the imagrations acts of today is ignorant,....sorry right track, i really like you and normally agree with you, but in this case,....i just think your wrong

sleepy jack 03-04-2008 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 451036)
If mexico fixed their own country they wouldn't be dying to get over here.
Did you not read my post? A huge part of it is our fault, that's such a stupid attitude. Americans shouldn't just say "Oh its Mexico's problem" its very much casued by the US and I'm sure if the Mexican government had the ability to eliminate poverty in their country they would do it in a heartbeat but they don't. They aren't able to offer low interest loans or create good clean factories with decent wages, they aren't torturing their people and putting them in that situation for fun. This thread is riddled with ignorance.

sweet_nothing 03-04-2008 05:31 PM
ignorance is bliss

sleepy jack 03-04-2008 05:32 PM
Lovely, good to see you're proud to run around spitting out idiotic statements with no factual backing or even thought behind them whatsoever.

adidasss 03-04-2008 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by savannah (Post 451041)
mainly because i work my ass off to suport myself, and dont feel like it should be mandatory (through my tax dollars) to support them,....

we have enough problems
I thought illegal immigrants aren't in the system therefore the government doesn't actually spend any money on them...*unsure*
Are you saying all or most illegal immigrants are lazy and live off the state somehow? I'm really rather ignorant here so don't take this the wrong way, I really want to know...

savannah 03-04-2008 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by swim (Post 451045)
We used 3 times as many troops and they weren't as well off as they could be from the recent war with Spain.

I think I'll call it what my history teacher with his masters calls it. mmk.

The issue had more to do with congressional votes than if slaves actually lived in Texas.

when you say 'we' what exactly are you refering to? and call it what you will,...i know what it is

as for texas joining the union, i'm not denying that slave votes might have had a hand in the vote,....but the issue of texas's independence happened about a decade before we even considered joining the union,...so to say that had it not been for slaves we would have automatically been a 'state' is preposterous

sweet_nothing 03-04-2008 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 451053)
Lovely, good to see you're proud to run around spitting out idiotic statements with no factual backing or even thought behind them whatsoever.
Chill the **** out it was just something i heard my geography teacher say. we had a deabate about this in my geography class and it ended up in fight.

simplephysics 03-04-2008 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 451054)
I thought illegal immigrants aren't in the system therefore the government doesn't actually spend any money on them...*unsure*
Are you saying all or most illegal immigrants are lazy and live off the state somehow? I'm really rather ignorant here so don't takes this the wrong way, I really want to know...
immigrants work like 10 times harder than any american citizen. they take the jobs we don't want, and they aren't paid well either. We should at least respect that if not anything else

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-04-2008 05:36 PM
Damn all these people coming here taking all our shitty jobs

sleepy jack 03-04-2008 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 451057)
Chill the **** out it was just something i heard my geography teacher say. we had a deabate about this in my geography class and it ended up in fight.
Than why bother repeating it?


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