Immigration (country, dance, American, track, quote)

savannah · 03-04-2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by swim

I agree that people enter countries illegally are wrong. I have no objection with that whatsoever. My issue is that system we use doesn't work because in many cases it's more lucrative and time efficient to enter illegally.

Texas would've immediately became a state if it wasn't for that slavery thing which ironically all the land we got from the Mexican War made a bigger issue of.

I'm pretty sure all confederate states had to ratify something saying they weren't allowed to succeed

texas is the only state in the union with the right to succeed,....its still in the contract,...irronically enough, the seal, under the rotunda, in the cap building in austin still reads 'the republic of texas'

and you're wrong,..texas would not have become part of the union had it not been for the slavery issue,...
first texas was not a huge slave state,....we didnt have all the plantations of the south,....we were not the south,...we were/are texas,.....we didnt need the workers that the south needed to economically sustain,....
we were too busy building a country,.....i might add that texas fought the mexicans for our land,.....america did not fight the mexicans,....

and its not the mexican war,....its the war for texas independence,....

also, when we defeated them,....the mexicans.....they were deamed undefeatable,....its a wonder we even won

swim · 03-04-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah

texas is the only state in the union with the right to succeed,....its still in the contract,...irronically enough, the seal, under the rotunda, in the cap building in austin still reads 'the republic of texas'

and you're wrong,..texas would not have become part of the union had it not been for the slavery issue,...
first texas was not a huge slave state,....we didnt have all the plantations of the south,....we were not the south,...we were/are texas,.....we didnt need the workers that the south needed to economically sustain,....
we were too busy building a country,.....i might add that texas fought the mexicans for our land,.....america did not fight the mexicans,....

and its not the mexican war,....its the war for texas independence,....

also, when we defeated them,....the mexicans.....they were deamed undefeatable,....its a wonder we even won

We used 3 times as many troops and they weren't as well off as they could be from the recent war with Spain.

I think I'll call it what my history teacher with his masters calls it. mmk.

The issue had more to do with congressional votes than if slaves actually lived in Texas.

savannah · 03-04-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by swim

We used 3 times as many troops and they weren't as well off as they could be from the recent war with Spain.

I think I'll call it what my history teacher with his masters calls it. mmk.

The issue had more to do with congressional votes than if slaves actually lived in Texas.

when you say 'we' what exactly are you refering to? and call it what you will,...i know what it is

as for texas joining the union, i'm not denying that slave votes might have had a hand in the vote,....but the issue of texas's independence happened about a decade before we even considered joining the union,...so to say that had it not been for slaves we would have automatically been a 'state' is preposterous

sleepy jack · 03-04-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah

when you say 'we' what exactly are you refering to? and call it what you will,...i know what it is

as for texas joining the union, i'm not denying that slave votes might have had a hand in the vote,....but the issue of texas's independence happened about a decade before we even considered joining the union,...so to say that had it not been for slaves we would have automatically been a 'state' is preposterous

I find your attitude towards Mexicans funny considering your signature.

swim · 03-04-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by savannah

when you say 'we' what exactly are you refering to? and call it what you will,...i know what it is

as for texas joining the union, i'm not denying that slave votes might have had a hand in the vote,....but the issue of texas's independence happened about a decade before we even considered joining the union,...so to say that had it not been for slaves we would have automatically been a 'state' is preposterous

OK OK, I was really talking about the Mexican war, you know the James K. Polk thing where we got california and everything and the border was pushed to rio grande. I hate Manifest Destiny. I think the Texas Revolution is a different monster while I believe that people moving there as soon as Mexico won it's independence is wrong I also believe in Popular Sovereignty.

swim · 03-04-2008, 05:18 PM

I think it's ridiculous that people can't better their lives because of damn imaginary line.

sweet_nothing · 03-04-2008, 05:19 PM

If mexico fixed their own country they wouldn't be dying to get over here.

savannah · 03-04-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing

If mexico fixed their own country they wouldn't be dying to get over here.

amen,...what they need to do is work on over throwing their own government rather than draining ours

sleepy jack · 03-04-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing

If mexico fixed their own country they wouldn't be dying to get over here.

Did you not read my post? A huge part of it is our fault, that's such a stupid attitude. Americans shouldn't just say "Oh its Mexico's problem" its very much casued by the US and I'm sure if the Mexican government had the ability to eliminate poverty in their country they would do it in a heartbeat but they don't. They aren't able to offer low interest loans or create good clean factories with decent wages, they aren't torturing their people and putting them in that situation for fun. This thread is riddled with ignorance.

sweet_nothing · 03-04-2008, 05:31 PM

ignorance is bliss

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