Drjohnrock

I'm not a huge fan of the band. But this really angers me. The US is turning into a banana republic.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ained-deported

jadis

Very stupid and dangerous

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Buckeye Randy

Consider the news source. I avoid passing quick judgement when the source is by extreme news sources from either the right (OAN) or left sources like this one from The Guardian.

Do you believe the band was denied entry because of political statements?

If entry to the U.S. was based on criticism of Trump, I feel there would be more people denied entry.

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jadis

On issues I know a thing or two about, like the Israeli conflict, the Guardian is a complete joke. But I wonder what other explanation there could be here.

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Drjohnrock

There is no other explanation.

Buckeye Randy

So you think criticism of Trump is the only reason some members were denied entry while vocalist Charlie Harper was allowed entry?

I do not judge or criticize what people believe just as I do not like being judged or criticized.

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Buckeye Randy

Authorities gave Gibbs (bassist Alvin Gibbs) two reasons for the detainment: One was that he had an incorrect visa and the other they wouldn’t disclose.

As I said before, it's tough to wade through opinions with fringe news sources. I found the above quote in several articles so give it whatever credibility you want.

I also found that vocalist Charlie Harper gained entry and performed at a weekend festival backed by session musicians. Obviously, Charlie wasn't bothered enough to cancel the performance.

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jadis

If only the Guardian was fringe... It's one of the most prestigious brands in world media, unfortunately.

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Buckeye Randy

True statement about The Guardian having huge influence and not being a niche source. When I said fringe I was thinking opinions from the far left or far right but I didn't state that very clearly.

I do feel that people getting single source news (or single views from multiple sources) are not doing themselves any favors.

I also think the UK Subs have not more than a few good songs that are over 40 years old. There is nothing really newsworthy about a festival appearance so maybe this was all a ploy to get some attention. If that's the case, well done!

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