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jadis 01-16-2024 08:02 AM

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NEW REPORT: 84% of Britons support female-only support services for women who are victims of domestic violence but the sector is in turmoil because of lack of clear laws.
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/statu...34409336447039

jadis 01-16-2024 04:13 PM

So many great headlines from the British gender wars, so little time

Police arrest British singer, 36, and quiz her over comments she made on GB News about 'being threatened by trans-rights extremists'


Also, this has gotten the usual suspects (I'm talking about the the terf contingent) hot under the colar on Twitter today so much so they deleted the tweet and amended the headline.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GD_VxCeX...jpg&name=small

jadis 01-17-2024 03:52 PM

"Female is real, and it's sex, and femininity is unreal, and it's gender. For that to become the given identity of women is a profoundly disabling notion."

https://twitter.com/WomenReadWomen/s...67621200486554

jadis 01-18-2024 07:48 AM

Fascinating

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEFVGvIb...jpg&name=large

jadis 01-21-2024 02:39 AM

She lost her author priveleges it appears! Billed as just some random transphobe who will get to be involved in the decision-making process of a TV show...

"Known transphobe J.K. Rowling is now reported to be an active exec producer on the ‘HARRY POTTER’ series where she will be involved in the show’s decision-making."

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/s...94179640971482

jadis 01-21-2024 02:43 AM

SCOTLAND: A rape crisis center reportedly turned away a survivor who inquired about female-only therapy following the appointment of a trans-identified male as CEO

Tristan_Geoff 01-21-2024 11:20 AM

damn why hasn't anyone posted in this thread in a while? seems like a topic worth talking about for sure and in no way causes real harm to marginalized populations of people

WWWP 01-22-2024 08:33 AM

Talking about a topic does not cause harm. Slippery slope, friendo.

elphenor 01-22-2024 09:24 AM

[QUOTE=jadis;2236333]Anyway "the big idea" of mid 20th century feminism was to reject stereotypes of "femininity." Whereas the trans movement of today appears to take them arguably more seriously than they've ever been taken before.
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This is really a 19th Century idea with Molly Wollstonecraft

her daughter ofc wrote "Frankenstein" Which in the 2nd half of the 20th Century was reclaimed by critics as the incredibly important feminist work it is

Shelley says with "Frankenstein" that there is no substitute for the feminine characteristics found in mothers

it's a critique of her mother's view of femininity as something to be escaped from

as a feminist work it does not ask women to be more like men, but asks men to be more like women, it elevates femininity

all of this to say that there has never been a consensus

Tristan_Geoff 01-22-2024 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2236434)
Talking about a topic does not cause harm. Slippery slope, friendo.

talking about a topic doesn't cause harm inherently, but the light that this thread and the person who made it are casting on the subject is one of damnation and one that creates distrust, which can and will lead to infection of ideas. good thing this ain't no echo chamber or else the whole forum would be spouting the same ideas


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