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Old 07-13-2013, 12:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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^ I´m quite happy with the way the forums are split at the moment, Urban. I guess I was just trying to rationalize why various types of music are bundled together and put in the "Country, Folk and World" section. In the absence of any clear definition, I came up with this:-


By that criteria, ska and reggae - like Scottish bagpipe music - have strong regional elements as far as I know, and so, logically, could be considered as belonging in the "world music" forum. That they sound completely unlike each other is a point that somebody else highlighted when they asked, "Why are Tibetan and Brazilian music grouped together?"
I get that, but my point is if you think (Not you personally) that the categories are not good enough what's the point of moving it to another that doesn't fit either.

And you are right, Reggae & Ska is a regional form of music that could come under that too, however there something you need to take into account.....

The last time we had a forum shuffle around we needed to merge the 3 lowest traffic forums together to get the forum the way we wanted it, had we needed to merge the lowest 4 forums instead Reggae would have been included in it too. As it happened we didn't need to and it was allowed to stay as a separate forum.

All genres bleed into each other so you have to draw the line somewhere before things look silly. I'd rather have less forums that are active than have the car crash that is that other music forum that regularly rips our ideas off us where they have about 40 separate forums for every little thing that hardly anybody posts in.
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The last time we had a forum shuffle around we needed to merge the 3 lowest traffic forums together to get the forum the way we wanted it, had we needed to merge the lowest 4 forums instead Reggae would have been included in it too. As it happened we didn't need to and it was allowed to stay as a separate forum.
^ That´s an interesting bit of MB history, and I´m sure most of us are happy to leave the forums the way the mods put them.

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All genres bleed into each other so you have to draw the line somewhere before things look silly. I'd rather have less forums that are active than have the car crash that is that other music forum that regularly rips our ideas off us where they have about 40 separate forums for every little thing that hardly anybody posts in.
^ I don´t really browse in other forums, but you´re quite right, that sounds like a disaster of endlessly having to define genres that, as you say, run together anyway. It must be like taking a mug of coffee and trying to separate out the water from the milk and the sugar.

None the less, while this thread is on the topic of terms and genres, I´d like to make a couple of points that may only appeal to the pedantic among us, so read on at your peril:-

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Why are country and world music lumped together??
They're two totally different things.
^ They´re not totally different at all; country is just one type of world music.

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I really like Neapolitan, so I feel guilty to be nit-picking his answer to the question, "What is world music?", especially as I am making up my definitions as I go along too.

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...it's music that is played throughout the world.
To me, a more useful answer is that world music is music that may come from anywhere in the world and still retains some evidence of its ethnic origin.

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People seem to use the words "international" and "world" as if they are interchangeable, but I think there´s a distinction to be made.
International is something that occurs across many nations; MB is an international forum, the same way the binary number system is international; it´s the same everywhere and it´s not immediately obvious where it originated from.
These days a piece of music like this can be accessed internationally, but it´s not international music; it clearly comes from Africa and is an example of world music:-


Well, those are my ideas anyway. Don´t know if they are of interest, or make sense to anyone else ....
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