Gypsy Music (Manele/Chalga)

milica · 06-13-2013, 03:14 AM

Manele/chalga is the type of music I can't stand.

misspoptart · 06-13-2013, 05:01 AM

Sorry to hear that. You must be Serbian?

Sir_Cactoos · 06-30-2013, 06:35 PM

If we're into Serbia, do not forget about their verion of such a music, called turbofolk. The lyrics are as "complex" as in previous genres, but there's also one big issue with that. I mean, many of those Serbian songs were deeply connected with nationalism during the civil war in former Yugoslavia in 90s. Unfortunatelly, I can't tell you more right now due to the very late time, but I'll back to that plot soon.

misspoptart · 07-01-2013, 05:04 AM

Excellent. I await your contributions.

Sir_Cactoos · 07-02-2013, 02:32 PM

The most symptomatic sign of nationalistic and xenofobic disposition of turbofolk was the relationship between famous singer Svetlana "Ceca" Ražnatović and Serbian warlord, leader of paramilitary group, Željko "Arkan" Ražnatović.In some way it determined the lyrics of many turbofolk songs, reffering to struggle with Croats and Bosniaks - sometimes they were very severe and harsh. Maybe they weren't "cruel" or "brutal", but it was enough to encourage some "patriots" to make war crimes.

To be honest, neither Croats nor Bosniaks were better with that. On the other side of frontline "Thompson" rock band was very popular. Initially they sung about the independence of Croatia and the need of resistance from Serbia. But later their lyrics also were quite equivocal - kill any Serbian.

War is never black and white, it's a multitude of greyness. Nobody is 100% good or bad. But music may erase the bad view of our deeds and over-recount the cruelness of our enemies. We need to have it into account.

djchameleon · 08-14-2013, 05:01 AM

*coughs*

Need some more recs Misspoptart or anyone else from this thread.

adidasss · 12-21-2020, 08:26 PM

Really goregous version of Ederlezi, a balkan gypsy classic, popularized by Goran Bregovic through his band Bijelo Dugme and their version called Djurdjevdan

And of course by the version used in Kusturica's classic "The time of the gypsies"

adidasss · 12-21-2020, 08:34 PM

Btw, I realize this thread is for a particular type of gypsy music that is NOT very related to the above posted, but there are no other Gypsy music threads so...

Safar · 02-06-2021, 05:50 PM

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Paul Smeenus · 02-06-2021, 06:12 PM

06-30-2013, 06:35 PM	#13 (permalink)
Sir_Cactoos Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Bet you won't locate it, will you? Posts: 52	If we're into Serbia, do not forget about their verion of such a music, called turbofolk. The lyrics are as "complex" as in previous genres, but there's also one big issue with that. I mean, many of those Serbian songs were deeply connected with nationalism during the civil war in former Yugoslavia in 90s. Unfortunatelly, I can't tell you more right now due to the very late time, but I'll back to that plot soon. __________________ Nice-looking field, where you can write inspiring quotes or other things!

07-02-2013, 02:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
Sir_Cactoos Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Bet you won't locate it, will you? Posts: 52	The most symptomatic sign of nationalistic and xenofobic disposition of turbofolk was the relationship between famous singer Svetlana "Ceca" Ražnatović and Serbian warlord, leader of paramilitary group, Željko "Arkan" Ražnatović.In some way it determined the lyrics of many turbofolk songs, reffering to struggle with Croats and Bosniaks - sometimes they were very severe and harsh. Maybe they weren't "cruel" or "brutal", but it was enough to encourage some "patriots" to make war crimes. To be honest, neither Croats nor Bosniaks were better with that. On the other side of frontline "Thompson" rock band was very popular. Initially they sung about the independence of Croatia and the need of resistance from Serbia. But later their lyrics also were quite equivocal - kill any Serbian. War is never black and white, it's a multitude of greyness. Nobody is 100% good or bad. But music may erase the bad view of our deeds and over-recount the cruelness of our enemies. We need to have it into account. __________________ Nice-looking field, where you can write inspiring quotes or other things!

12-21-2020, 08:26 PM	#17 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	Really goregous version of Ederlezi, a balkan gypsy classic, popularized by Goran Bregovic through his band Bijelo Dugme and their version called Djurdjevdan And of course by the version used in Kusturica's classic "The time of the gypsies" __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

12-21-2020, 08:34 PM	#18 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	Btw, I realize this thread is for a particular type of gypsy music that is NOT very related to the above posted, but there are no other Gypsy music threads so... __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

06-13-2013, 03:14 AM	#11 (permalink)
milica Groupie Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 5	Manele/chalga is the type of music I can't stand.

06-13-2013, 05:01 AM	#12 (permalink)
misspoptart gimme gimme Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: istanbul Posts: 897	Sorry to hear that. You must be Serbian?

07-01-2013, 05:04 AM	#14 (permalink)
misspoptart gimme gimme Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: istanbul Posts: 897	Excellent. I await your contributions.

02-06-2021, 05:50 PM	#19 (permalink)
Safar Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Germany Posts: 212	Kalyi Jag - 2 szám Shej Sabina ÉS E Shukar Shej (A szép lány)