- - International music (in general)
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VEGANGELICA
03-06-2010 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Petula07
(Post 833848)
For me some magic of international music is in feelings, emotions and strange sounds. I think everybody is able to feel emotions although we don't understand lyrics.
For example this mongolian song... You don't understand but I guess you would agree with me that it's full of emotions.
Music can touch people all around the world because everybody loves, dies, eats... Sufferings and passions are the same or at least very similar.
For example I was surprised how many listeners from abroad czech singer Radůza has. Why they like her? They say her voice is very powerful and they don't need to understand because they just enjoy her voice...
I agree, Petula, that international music draws me in because I see familiar emotions and experiences expressed in ways that are new to me, like with the throat singing, which I've only ever heard before as background music in documentaries!
I *do* really like understanding the lyrics, though! For example, I'd like to know what is being sung by the Czech singer Radůza, who I agree *does* have a warm, powerful voice that I didn't expect coming out of someone with such a slight frame. Listening to a song without knowing the meaning of the words is hard for me, because I really *want* to know specifically what the song is about. I can feel the emotion, but the intellectual side of me wants to have the thoughts and ideas to wrestle with, too, since understanding them deepens my experience of the emotion conveyed by the song.
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Originally Posted by Zaqarbal
(Post 833861)
Ops! It's true. I didn't realize.
Thanks for full video and translations, Zaqarbal!
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Originally Posted by Bulldog
(Post 833899)
Ah, good old throat singing! Absolutely extraordinary sound, especially if you're approaching it who thought the term had a nice ring to it and have no idea what to expect. Anyone who wants to hear this in the context of good old rock 'n' roll should hunt down Yat-Kha'sDalai Beldiri as if your life depends on it - gives a very familiar form of musical expression such a dark and unique twist.
I looked and looked for Yat-Kha's "Dalai Beldiri" but alas couldn't find it, Bulldog! I did, however, find him singing a cover of Joy Division's post-punk "Love will tear us apart," using throat singing!:)
Yat-Kha's cover of "Love Will Tear Us Apart" (using throat singing):
Joy Division's "Love Will Tear Us Apart":
frostedone
03-08-2010 01:28 AM
Japan: Megumi Hayashibara. I also like the Pillows (a J-rock band)
Petula07
03-08-2010 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA
(Post 834171)
I *do* really like understanding the lyrics, though! For example, I'd like to know what is being sung by the Czech singer Radůza, who I agree *does* have a warm, powerful voice that I didn't expect coming out of someone with such a slight frame. Listening to a song without knowing the meaning of the words is hard for me, because I really *want* to know specifically what the song is about. I can feel the emotion, but the intellectual side of me wants to have the thoughts and ideas to wrestle with, too, since understanding them deepens my experience of the emotion conveyed by the song.
Ok, I understand what you mean. I always try to find some lyrics and sometimes I use Google tranlator. It's not so good or at least something.
It's not easy to translate czech lyrics of Radůza but if you want, tell me, I will do it for you.
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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA
(Post 834171)
Yat-Kha's cover of "Love Will Tear Us Apart" (using throat singing):
Hehe, I like it, it sounds really good :)
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Originally Posted by frostedone
(Post 834719)
Japan: Megumi Hayashibara. I also like the Pillows (a J-rock band)
Could you show to us some Youtube videos, please?
Scissorman
03-08-2010 03:34 AM
I used to listen to this all the time
VEGANGELICA
03-09-2010 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Petula07
(Post 834749)
Ok, I understand what you mean. I always try to find some lyrics and sometimes I use Google tranlator. It's not so good or at least something. It's not easy to translate czech lyrics of Radůza but if you want, tell me, I will do it for you.
If you have some time and don't mind too terribly, I would enjoy seeing a translation of one of Radůza's songs, whichever you like the most, Petula. Right now listening to her music is like looking at a lovely treasure chest to which I lack the key. I'd like to see inside but can't and so am left admiring the surface.
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Originally Posted by Scissorman
(Post 834751)
I used to listen to this all the time
Mmm...lovely use of modern-sounding violin and cello composition to create a mood of nostalgia and tragedy. Did her husband in the song die? My, the woman has a very childlike voice! What language is she singing? I see the video was filmed in Russia, but I assume she is singing in Japanese?
I tried to find out more Akira Yamaoka, but so far have only learned that he is from Japan and composes very popular video game music. I assume this song is part of a video game soundtrack score for "Silent Hill," Scissorman?
Petula07
03-21-2010 08:28 AM
@Vegangelica - OK, I will translate my two favourite songs of Radůza for you or for people in this thread. I'm sorry, I didn't find some time yet, I am still busy this month. But I will do it as soon as possible.
I am in violoncello mood, I got some metal cello bands but it doesn't fit here.
Now I am digging german instrumental band Neun Welten.
It's neofolk, instrumental music with melancholic mood and my favourite instruments - acoustic guitars, violin, cello, recorder flute.
This is probably their best track...
Some other tracks has calmer mood...
They have two albums - Vergessene Pfade (2006) and Destrunken (2009).
Zaqarbal
03-21-2010 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Petula07
(Post 839655)
@Vegangelica - OK, I will translate my two favourite songs of Radůza for you or for people in this thread.
Not only for us, Petula. You can do it for the whole World, as I do, for example, here (yes, I'm the same cat). :)
VEGANGELICA
03-21-2010 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Petula07
(Post 839655)
@Vegangelica - OK, I will translate my two favourite songs of Radůza for you or for people in this thread. I'm sorry, I didn't find some time yet, I am still busy this month. But I will do it as soon as possible.
I am in violoncello mood, I got some metal cello bands but it doesn't fit here.
Now I am digging german instrumental band Neun Welten.
It's neofolk, instrumental music with melancholic mood and my favourite instruments - acoustic guitars, violin, cello, recorder flute.
Those were both lovely tracks, Petula! I especially liked the acoustic guitar in the second. I wish Neun Welten also included German lyrics, since I like German especially.
No rush on the translations...don't feel any pressure! If/when you have some spare time to translate, that would be nice...but only if doing so works well with your schedule.
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Originally Posted by Zaqarbal
(Post 839693)
Not only for us, Petula. You can do it for the whole World, as I do, for example, here (yes, I'm the same cat). :)
This is a good idea, Zaqarbal, and a nice way for people who *can* translate to help those of us who don't know the language of a song to enjoy it! That cat is cute.
Petula07
03-21-2010 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Zaqarbal
(Post 839693)
Not only for us, Petula. You can do it for the whole World, as I do, for example, here (yes, I'm the same cat). :)
That's nice web page. Could you show to us this spanish song?
I know spanish music is great and people likes it but I don't know so much international fans of czech music.
I am not so good in english. It's not easy for me to translate czech lyrics because czech language has often double-meaning and I am not able to express it in english. But I will try to do my best.
Vegangelica, as I remember very well, Neun Welten have only about 3 songs with lyrics, all other are only instrumental.
Zaqarbal
03-21-2010 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Petula07
(Post 839716)
That's nice web page. Could you show to us this spanish song?
It's by Nena Daconte. I put it here, in the Spanish-language music thread.
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Originally Posted by Petula07
(Post 839716)
I know spanish music is great and people likes it but I don't know so much international fans of czech music.
Anyway, there always will be someone interested in it. And a little consulted translation is better than nothing. The website I mentioned is full of amateur translators from all over the world. Just people who like music, like us, who make a voluntary (large or little) contribution by writing lyrics translations.
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Originally Posted by Petula07
(Post 839716)
I am not so good in english. It's not easy for me to translate czech lyrics because czech language has often double-meaning and I am not able to express it in english. But I will try to do my best.
Don't worry, I 'm not good in English either, but I use on-line dictionaries. When I have doubts, I type English expressions and sentences in Google, to find out the most correct or common one. And anyway, you can ask for help. There is a forum for amateur lyrics-translators worldwide, and it has a Czech, Slovak and Slovene section.