International music (in general)

Guybrush · 03-04-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

Hmm...have *you* been practicing this upbeat fiddle tune on *your* violin, Tore? Torturing people with high-pitched squeals? One of the benefits of playing a violin as a child, especially when one has siblings, is the violin's remarkable capacity for making excruciating sounds. ;-)

I can imagine! A problem with me and fiddle is I can't really cope with my own excruciating squeals. When I play, it's really only a step above trying to make music by scraping on a blackboard. I can only imagine how awful it must be to have a learning sibling doing this frequently.

The song above is probably played with a hardingfele (traditional violin-type instrument) which is possibly in a special "troll" tuning according to that wikipedia article .. One of my friends have a hardingfele, but since noone can play it, it just hangs on the wall as decoration.

VEGANGELICA · 03-04-2010, 09:18 PM

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I can imagine! A problem with me and fiddle is I can't really cope with my own excruciating squeals. When I play, it's really only a step above trying to make music by scraping on a blackboard. I can only imagine how awful it must be to have a learning sibling doing this frequently.

The song above is probably played with a hardingfele (traditional violin-type instrument) which is possibly in a special "troll" tuning according to that wikipedia article .. One of my friends have a hardingfele, but since noone can play it, it just hangs on the wall as decoration.

I didn't know about the existence of the hardingfele, Tore! The information about religious beliefs frowning on this instrument and its music (often used for dancing) is very interesting, especially because my mother-in-law is of proud Norwegian ancestry and talks about how her Lutheran mother and she herself as a child (in Minnesota) were not allowed to dance. Or play cards. Because, of course, dancing and card-playing are devilish activities. Sigh.

About violin and siblings: yes, my brother was not a fan of my practicing when I was little. I don't know if his growled complaining made me practice less or more! Probably more.

About *your* violin playing: hey, a step above black-board scraping is a start!

Do you have a teacher, Tore? Based on your pictures of yourself playing, I actually had some technique suggestions!

Guybrush · 03-05-2010, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

I didn't know about the existence of the hardingfele, Tore! The information about religious beliefs frowning on this instrument and its music (often used for dancing) is very interesting, especially because my mother-in-law is of proud Norwegian ancestry and talks about how her Lutheran mother and she herself as a child (in Minnesota) were not allowed to dance. Or play cards. Because, of course, dancing and card-playing are devilish activities. Sigh.

About violin and siblings: yes, my brother was not a fan of my practicing when I was little. I don't know if his growled complaining made me practice less or more! Probably more.

About *your* violin playing: hey, a step above black-board scraping is a start!

Do you have a teacher, Tore? Based on your pictures of yourself playing, I actually had some technique suggestions!

I agree about the interestingness of the hardingfele's history. I love trivia like that and I'm a sucker for stuff that has to do with superstitions and folklore! Playing the fiddle seems like it's been a sinful activity indeed and the devil wasn't the only one who could teach you. There's a folklore creature called Fossegrimen (sometimes confused with Nøkken) who's usually described as a beautiful man who lives in waterfalls. He lures young women by playing his fiddle and then drowns them, but if you go to the waterfall at the right time (night time probably) with an offering, you can ask him to teach you how to play.

Fun to hear there are some norwegian genes in your family even if they're not by blood! Sounds like your mother in law has had the sort of religious upbringing my own mother had where everything from listening to the radio or talking to boys was sin. She's told me about how people would speak in tongues during church meetings and how it kept her up at night! Needless to say, I never had a religious upbringing myself.

About my own fiddle-skills, I thought about practicing and trying to get into it, but the last time I tried (when those pictures were taken), I thought .. Nah! I have a flute I'm gonna try and dedicate more time to instead. If I ever change my mind, I'll nag you for tips, though.

Zaqarbal · 03-05-2010, 10:19 AM

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The video unfortunately cut out around halfway through, so I couldn't hear it all.

Ops! It's true. I didn't realize. This one is complete. Vem ("Come to Me", trans. here) is also great. And The colors of the Sun (trans.). Their album O Espirito da Paz ("The Spirit of Peace") is really full of masterpieces.

frostedone · 03-08-2010, 01:28 AM

Japan: Megumi Hayashibara. I also like the Pillows (a J-rock band)

Petula07 · 03-08-2010, 03:22 AM

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I *do* really like understanding the lyrics, though! For example, I'd like to know what is being sung by the Czech singer Radůza, who I agree *does* have a warm, powerful voice that I didn't expect coming out of someone with such a slight frame. Listening to a song without knowing the meaning of the words is hard for me, because I really *want* to know specifically what the song is about. I can feel the emotion, but the intellectual side of me wants to have the thoughts and ideas to wrestle with, too, since understanding them deepens my experience of the emotion conveyed by the song.

Ok, I understand what you mean. I always try to find some lyrics and sometimes I use Google tranlator. It's not so good or at least something.
It's not easy to translate czech lyrics of Radůza but if you want, tell me, I will do it for you.

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Yat-Kha's cover of "Love Will Tear Us Apart" (using throat singing):

Hehe, I like it, it sounds really good

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Japan: Megumi Hayashibara. I also like the Pillows (a J-rock band)

Could you show to us some Youtube videos, please?

Scissorman · 03-08-2010, 03:34 AM

I used to listen to this all the time

VEGANGELICA · 03-09-2010, 08:23 AM

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Ok, I understand what you mean. I always try to find some lyrics and sometimes I use Google tranlator. It's not so good or at least something.
It's not easy to translate czech lyrics of Radůza but if you want, tell me, I will do it for you.

If you have some time and don't mind too terribly, I would enjoy seeing a translation of one of Radůza's songs, whichever you like the most, Petula. Right now listening to her music is like looking at a lovely treasure chest to which I lack the key. I'd like to see inside but can't and so am left admiring the surface.

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I used to listen to this all the time

Mmm...lovely use of modern-sounding violin and cello composition to create a mood of nostalgia and tragedy. Did her husband in the song die? My, the woman has a very childlike voice! What language is she singing? I see the video was filmed in Russia, but I assume she is singing in Japanese?

I tried to find out more Akira Yamaoka, but so far have only learned that he is from Japan and composes very popular video game music. I assume this song is part of a video game soundtrack score for "Silent Hill," Scissorman?

Petula07 · 03-21-2010, 08:28 AM

@Vegangelica - OK, I will translate my two favourite songs of Radůza for you or for people in this thread. I'm sorry, I didn't find some time yet, I am still busy this month. But I will do it as soon as possible.

I am in violoncello mood, I got some metal cello bands but it doesn't fit here.
Now I am digging german instrumental band Neun Welten.
It's neofolk, instrumental music with melancholic mood and my favourite instruments - acoustic guitars, violin, cello, recorder flute.

This is probably their best track...

Some other tracks has calmer mood...

They have two albums - Vergessene Pfade (2006) and Destrunken (2009).

Zaqarbal · 03-21-2010, 11:33 AM

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@Vegangelica - OK, I will translate my two favourite songs of Radůza for you or for people in this thread.

Not only for us, Petula. You can do it for the whole World, as I do, for example, here (yes, I'm the same cat).

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