Define Folk

jackhammer · 08-06-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by right-track

Morbid soul music.

Kate Rusby doesn't fit into this though

TheBig3 · 08-06-2009, 08:36 AM

was this revenge for the Boston Tea Party?

starrynight · 05-06-2011, 03:03 PM

Folk I would say is more of a pure traditional type of music. Of course popular music isn't about purity really, people mix all kinds of things together, and much of the stuff in this forum I would say isn't folk/country.

Moshe · 05-07-2011, 12:54 PM

Louis Armstrong famously said that he considered all music Folk Music, music made by Folks "I ain't heard no horses sing"
Folk music is mostly though not exclusively acoustic based. It is related to the traditional music of a country/ region
The Sixties Folk Revival involved the traditional side being revived & also new son gs by acoustic based singer-songwriters

starrynight · 05-07-2011, 01:33 PM

Singer-songwriters probably flourished the most in the 70s. But while they might draw on some folk influence I think you can clearly distinguish them from folk records which would have things like folk dances on them and less elaborate melodies normally. I see country as like American folk music, other influential folk music would include English (big influence I think), and then Celtic, French... There are also other countries from around the world with folk, these normally get put under 'world music' (puzzlingly lumped with western influenced music or native classical music by people).

Lisnaholic · 05-08-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation

folk music usually varies from culture to culture, and is heavily influenced by regional identity. Folk incorporates native instruments, like the kora in Africa or the Guitarron in Mexico, and uses established rhythms that occasionally derive from religious customs or spiritual ceremony. Subject matter tends to relate to local mythologies or come from a period of great suffering, like slavery in America or pogroms in eastern europe.

^ This excellent answer picks up most of the elements that I think of as fixing the folk style. I would maybe add that the music or the words should also have a certain simplicity that make them easy to emulate. The great folk-songs have been passed around between musicians for years and to survive they`ve needed a robust structure and a certain universality of lyric. So, for me, I wouldn`t call Jack Johnson a folk singer - his songs are too quirky and individualistic - he falls into the singer-songwriter category that starrynight just mentioned.

I`d also say that it`s axiomatic that every country in the world has folk music, which these days seems to be called "world", mainly for marketing reasons, I suspect.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Beards & chunky knit sweaters

^ Absolutely essential, of course, although a female singer, with a note from her doctor, is now exempt from needing a beard in most countries.

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starrynight Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 937	Folk I would say is more of a pure traditional type of music. Of course popular music isn't about purity really, people mix all kinds of things together, and much of the stuff in this forum I would say isn't folk/country.

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Moshe Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London Posts: 165	Louis Armstrong famously said that he considered all music Folk Music, music made by Folks "I ain't heard no horses sing" Folk music is mostly though not exclusively acoustic based. It is related to the traditional music of a country/ region The Sixties Folk Revival involved the traditional side being revived & also new son gs by acoustic based singer-songwriters

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starrynight Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 937	Singer-songwriters probably flourished the most in the 70s. But while they might draw on some folk influence I think you can clearly distinguish them from folk records which would have things like folk dances on them and less elaborate melodies normally. I see country as like American folk music, other influential folk music would include English (big influence I think), and then Celtic, French... There are also other countries from around the world with folk, these normally get put under 'world music' (puzzlingly lumped with western influenced music or native classical music by people).