Is Johnny Cash country? (pop, punk, rock, genre, beastie boys)

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-18-2006, 11:41 AM

Anyone with a brain can quite clearly see he looks nothing like a country singer

swim · 06-18-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Anyone with a brain can quite clearly see he looks nothing like a country singer

Raine · 06-18-2006, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

His style and image isnt?
How so?

His image, the way he was portrayed in the media, and his attitude just always screamed punk for me.
Sure I recognize his music as country but he was all punk on the inside. Athough my thoughts and views on punk are somewhat different from what some of you here think based on the Official Guide to Punk thread in the Punk Forum.

~~bungalow~~ · 06-18-2006, 12:00 PM

Okay, you're an idiot.
What do his style and image not being country, have to do with how "punk" he was on the inside?

Raine · 06-18-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

Okay, you're an idiot.
What do his style and image not being country, have to do with how "punk" he was on the inside?

You ask me a question and becuase you either don't like my answer or don't understand it, I'm an idiot. Sometimes I wonder why I even bother reading your posts at all.

Earlier in the thread someone said he was classic rock or something like that which I think is by far one of the most isnane things I ever heard. But then I thought that if Johnny Cash wasn't country, then what would he be? And I thought Punk. I thought punk becuase of his image and attitude

Is that clear enough for you? Or should I get an English/Neanderthal dicitonary out?

swim · 06-18-2006, 12:08 PM

Wow. Johnny Cash was the first punk. He was way ahead of his time. He's just so nihilistic.

Johnny is himself. Country with an edge.

~~bungalow~~ · 06-18-2006, 12:16 PM

It's not that I don't understand what you're typing. What you're typing is just so ridiculously stupid that I feel as though I'm misunderstanding. So now, what about his "image" (do I need to get the definition of that word for you?) and "style" (I'd be glad to define that for you as well) is not country?

Raine · 06-18-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

So now, what about his "image" and "style" is not country?

Well, I always saw Johnny Cash as something of a rebel. I think it's his first album where on the cover he's wearing all black and the look on his face just screamed "do you wanna mess with me"and his whole attitude was no nonsense. He wasn't a guy that messed around with too much and din't take crap from anybody.
And I guess I should tell you that I always saw Punk (and all of it's sub - categories too then) as something revolutionary and always changing.
When Johnny Cash came onto the scene he definitely changed something whether it sounded punk or not.

swim · 06-18-2006, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Raine

Well, I always saw Johnny Cash as something of a rebel. I think it's his first album where on the cover he's wearing all black and the look on his face just screamed "do you wanna mess with me"and his whole attitude was no nonsense. He wasn't a guy that messed around with too much and din't take crap from anybody.
And I guess I should tell you that I always saw Punk (and all of it's sub - categories too then) as something revolutionary and always changing.
When Johnny Cash came onto the scene he definitely changed something whether it sounded punk or not.

That's not just punk. That's music in general. So in conclusion Johnny Cash made music.

Raine · 06-18-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow

That's not just punk. That's music in general. So in conclusion Johnny Cash made music.

Not really.
Name one genre of music that can be defined as so many things as Punk.
In so many places punk is called something else or gains yet another sub category.

So far I've heard it called punk and here are just some of the categories that people have created for it over time:
thrash, rave, ska, goth, techno, alternative, emo, hardcore.

Now before you jump down my throat. I know that there are a lot of people that would see some of the sub categories I mentioned as seperate genres unto themself, but it can't be just my way of thinking if there are other people in the world that think this way too.

And you never denied that punk has changed over time or over the years but it's the one genre I can think of that has changed more thanany other genre.
I was 6, when I first heard the Misfits and the Smiths. Right now I'm almost 17 years old and some people call stuff like the Beastie Boys punk. . . I won't say whether I think the Beastie Boys are punk or not, but if you think they are, and you've heard anything by the Smiths or the Misfits, you can't tell me that groups sound anything alike. Sure they make talk about the same stuff but it really doesn't too much a like now does it?

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~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	Okay, you're an idiot. What do his style and image not being country, have to do with how "punk" he was on the inside?

06-18-2006, 12:16 PM	#27 (permalink)
~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,140	It's not that I don't understand what you're typing. What you're typing is just so ridiculously stupid that I feel as though I'm misunderstanding. So now, what about his "image" (do I need to get the definition of that word for you?) and "style" (I'd be glad to define that for you as well) is not country?