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Old 02-04-2013, 10:18 AM   #621 (permalink)
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thanks, chives ! no dramatic accident to report - i caught my little finger in a car door. in fact the operation and bandage to repair the facture is more of a nuisance than the original injury !

taking tiger mountain has some nice music on it, but i really meant that it was my favourite cover art, as i can see that the covers are important to you as well as the music. that`s how it used to be for me until cassettes and then mp3s came along. now i`ve learnt to live without album covers.

maybe i`m being unfair to mirror man; i should play it again to check. certainly, all that whooshing from one speaker to the other on strictly personal is over the top !

i don`t know basement tapes very well, but i have a suspicion that it`s a rather patchy collection of songs with, by dylan standards, disappointing lyrics. but good luck, anyway, in your search.

here`s a question, chives; when oh mercy came out, it was available in both vinyl and cd formats i believe, because that`s when people were swapping from one technology to the other. do you think that was the last dylan vinyl or are vinyls still made for specialist collectors like yourself ?
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:39 AM   #622 (permalink)
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For the most part, I think you can get Dylan's core albums on vinyl, even during that vinyl drought of the 90s. I know I've seen Good As I Been To You on vinyl...I'd have to check but I think everything after that is available on vinyl as well. Certainly that wasn't his last album released as such. I don't think some of the Bootleg series albums are on vinyl, though, and when they are they are mighty expensive.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:41 AM   #623 (permalink)
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For the most part, I think you can get Dylan's core albums on vinyl, even during that vinyl drought of the 90s. I know I've seen Good As I Been To You on vinyl...I'd have to check but I think everything after that is available on vinyl as well. Certainly that wasn't his last album released as such. I don't think some of the Bootleg series albums are on vinyl, though, and when they are they are mighty expensive.
I haven't listened to my Dylan vinyls in over 15 years since my turn-table died. Everything is on the computer these days anyway which sort of takes the fun out of it. But for quick and easy access it's convenient and anyway my aging ears don't really decipher the aural nuances between analog and digital anymore.

I have all the official releases on vinyl up until "Love & Theft". New vinyl records did get more expensive as the releases got more limited. "Time Out Of Mind" and L&T were close to $20 each when they were released. Since I had the CD's I never replaced my turn-table and so I never got a chance to spin them.

Is it hard to find the old Dylan albums on vinyl these days? In the 90's I was picking up multiple copies for a buck or two and didn't really know if the vinyl was any good or not. Just the covers, sleeves and liner notes were worth getting at that price.
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:16 PM   #624 (permalink)
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What's great about getting into Dylan today is you have so many resources to take official studio releases and burn copies with added tracks from official and unofficial bootleg sources the way you prefer. I've burned my own mixes of many of my Dylan albums for the car using everything I can gather and using the actual order of tracks from recording sessions. It's time consuming but was a fun hobby at the time and good way to relieve some boredom I had with the same old albums.

These are the ways I burned a few of my own mixes on some of the albums and they did bring back some new life to them being chronologically true to the recording sessions.

(tracks not originally on the official release are in italics)

The Tmes They Are A-Changin'

Original track listing:

"Ballad of Hollis Brown"
"With God on Our Side"
"One Too Many Mornings"
"North Country Blues"
"Only a Pawn in Their Game"
"Boots of Spanish Leather"
"When the Ship Comes In"
"The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll"
"Restless Farewell"

CDR Remix

North Country Blues
Seven Curses
Ballad of Hollis Brown
With God on Our Side
Only a Pawn in Their Game
Boots of Spanish Leather
Paths of Victory
Moonshiner
Only a Hobo
Percy's Song
The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll
When the Ship Comes In
The Tmes They Are A-Changin'
Lay Down Your Weary Tune
One Too Many Mornings
Restless Farewell

I left out Suze (The Cough Song) 'cause I didn't think it flowed well enough with the other songs

Infidels

Original track listing:

"Jokerman"
"Sweetheart Like You"
"Neighborhood Bully"
"License to Kill"
"Man of Peace"
"Union Sundown"
"I and I"
"Don't Fall Apart on Me Tonight"

CDR Re-mix

Don't Fall Apart On Me Tonight
Jokerman
Licensed to Kill
Someone's Got a Hold of My Heart
Man of Peace
Sweetheart Like You
Neighborhood Bully
Tell Me
Foot Of Pride
I & I
Union Sundown
Lord Protect My Child
Death Is Not The End
Angel Flying Too Close to the Ground
Blind Willie McTell

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Old 02-12-2013, 02:40 PM   #625 (permalink)
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That sounds fun TboneFrank. Bob Dylan is (for the past 6-7 years, along with The Beatles) the biggest influence on my own music, and he remains one of my favourite artists. His 60s work is one big pile of awesome, and he's released worthy material in every decade since as well. Especially with "Blood on the Tracks", but I even like "Tempest", so in my mind there's no doubt the man's a genius. And an enigma. One who can't be unravelled (if enigmas can be unravelled, I wouldn't know), so I don't even want to read his autobiography, as it's impossible to tell when the man tells the truth and when he lets myth take over. Which might be a good thing, honestly. Anyway, I love Dylan.
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Old 02-13-2013, 12:29 AM   #626 (permalink)
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so I don't even want to read his autobiography, as it's impossible to tell when the man tells the truth and when he lets myth take over.
Do you mean Chronicles 1? It's a good read and since it comes from him directly it's authorative whether he makes it up or not. When you read it you have to imagine that cool voice from Theme Time Radio Hour in your head.

I wonder if he will ever do part 2 and 3. I think they were going to coincide with Scorsese's three part Dylan documentary. Looks like those projects tanked big time. At least Scorsese gave us that great George Harrison HBO documentary Living In The Material World while we patiently wait. If he isn't planning to do more of the Dylan sequels for whatever reason I hope he does one on Neil Young

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Ah, finally got a physical copy of the Basement Tapes. Every copy I've ever seen (probably less than three) has been worn and scratched up, but I finally found one that was in beautiful shape. It was my first time hearing the 1975 album all the way through (I had listened to bootlegs before) and it was pretty great. The album artwork is pretty cool, too!

So now I've gotten all the Dylan albums I've been really itchin to get. I still would like a vinyl version of Positively 4th Street in my collection...so will probably get his first Greatest Hits or the single itself...and I'm sure he has other albums I'd consider getting in the future but frankly I have more than enough Dylan to last me for quite a while. Maybe Planet Waves at some point...I remember that being nice.
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Is it my job to keep the Bob Dylan thread alive? I guess all the older members have nothing left to say about him or something?

I came on to say how great the Before the Flood live album with the Band is. I bought it a few weeks ago and it's just fantastic. Maybe not the best in song selection (for me) but when they tear it up in the electric numbers it comes off great. One of the few Dylan releases to really surprise me upon first listen because I never hear anybody talk about it.

Since I enjoyed Before the Flood so much, I've been reviewing all the Bootleg Series volumes dedicated to live Dylan because I feel like I've been missing out. "Royal Albert Hall" concert is great and I want to relisten to the live 64 concert because I don't remember it very well. Hoping they are some good stuff.
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Is it my job to keep the Bob Dylan thread alive? I guess all the older members have nothing left to say about him or something?

I came on to say how great the Before the Flood live album with the Band is. I bought it a few weeks ago and it's just fantastic. Maybe not the best in song selection (for me) but when they tear it up in the electric numbers it comes off great. One of the few Dylan releases to really surprise me upon first listen because I never hear anybody talk about it.

Since I enjoyed Before the Flood so much, I've been reviewing all the Bootleg Series volumes dedicated to live Dylan because I feel like I've been missing out. "Royal Albert Hall" concert is great and I want to relisten to the live 64 concert because I don't remember it very well. Hoping they are some good stuff.
happy to help bring this thread to surface!

I just picked that up recently myself ... i left it as one of the last items on my to do list: most of its criticisms has to do with its sound quality. But there are some great performances on there, including the definitive performance of Knockin on Heavens Door.

someone asked earlier about the bootleg series on vinyl - most of them are available, but i think they were mixed from the cd mix anyhow. I have tell tale signs, witmark, and live 66 on vinyl, and they are quite fun simply for the packaging. I'd like to get live 75 on vinyl because I always forget where i put my CD player these days!

live 75 may capture the peak of Dylan's touring capabilities. although the NET is an entire mountain range worth exploring.

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I haven't listened to my Dylan vinyls in over 15 years since my turn-table died. Everything is on the computer these days anyway which sort of takes the fun out of it. But for quick and easy access it's convenient and anyway my aging ears don't really decipher the aural nuances between analog and digital anymore.

I have all the official releases on vinyl up until "Love & Theft". New vinyl records did get more expensive as the releases got more limited. "Time Out Of Mind" and L&T were close to $20 each when they were released. Since I had the CD's I never replaced my turn-table and so I never got a chance to spin them.

Is it hard to find the old Dylan albums on vinyl these days? In the 90's I was picking up multiple copies for a buck or two and didn't really know if the vinyl was any good or not. Just the covers, sleeves and liner notes were worth getting at that price.
most of them are readily available: there has been the Sony Mono set reissue a few years ago where you can get the first 8 in one lump package, and there's the sundazed reissues that cover up through nashville skyline. those you can purchase individually. The only albums right now that are hard to acquire in the States are: Time out of Mind, World Gone Wrong, Under a Red Sky, and Unplugged.

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Ah, finally got a physical copy of the Basement Tapes. Every copy I've ever seen (probably less than three) has been worn and scratched up, but I finally found one that was in beautiful shape. It was my first time hearing the 1975 album all the way through (I had listened to bootlegs before) and it was pretty great. The album artwork is pretty cool, too!

So now I've gotten all the Dylan albums I've been really itchin to get. I still would like a vinyl version of Positively 4th Street in my collection...so will probably get his first Greatest Hits or the single itself...and I'm sure he has other albums I'd consider getting in the future but frankly I have more than enough Dylan to last me for quite a while. Maybe Planet Waves at some point...I remember that being nice.
Planet waves is quite worth it! and it only makes sense on vinyl, because the two forever youngs are at least separated by the act of flipping sides.

Positively 4th street single is also included in the nice little record store day release package, which has about 4 sweet 45 mono singles in terrific packaging. probably some good deals on amazon for it. Greatest hits is a fun spin too, such an impressive collection of powerful songs that usually get washed away in the context of the great albums they are on. I listen to it biannually on his birthday and the fourth of July.
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someone asked earlier about the bootleg series on vinyl - most of them are available, but i think they were mixed from the cd mix anyhow. I have tell tale signs, witmark, and live 66 on vinyl, and they are quite fun simply for the packaging. I'd like to get live 75 on vinyl because I always forget where i put my CD player these days!
As is usually the case. I don't know if I can justify buying the vinyl copies of the Bootleg Series, so I'll probably just pick up the CDs when I see them for cheap. Do they have good liner notes? That might the push I need to justify buying them on CD, because otherwise it's tough.
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there has been the Sony Mono set reissue a few years ago where you can get the first 8 in one lump package
I want to strongly emphasis how good this set is. It's some of the best sounding vinyl in my entire 350-or-so album collection. I have a few Japanese Beatles and Japanese jazz pressings that give it good competiton, but the Mono Recordings box are really up there. I've heard the Sundazed reissues are really good as well though (as Sundazed vinyl issues usually are!) so they might be equivalent in quality. I'm a sucker for box sets, though.

And really? I see Under the Red Sky on vinyl pretty often, at least on three different occasions and all for around 5 bucks. I see it more often than I see some of his mid-80s stuff (I've seen Down in the Groove only once). Maybe just coincidence, though. Never seen any of the other "vinyl rarities" listed here on vinyl in shops though, so I believe it.

Planet Waves will definitely be my next Dylan purchase. I don't remember really engaging with it when I have heard it but it's important enough that I should own it. Especially now that I'm getting into the Band more and more.
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Positively 4th street single is also included in the nice little record store day release package, which has about 4 sweet 45 mono singles in terrific packaging. probably some good deals on amazon for it. Greatest hits is a fun spin too, such an impressive collection of powerful songs that usually get washed away in the context of the great albums they are on. I listen to it biannually on his birthday and the fourth of July.
This sounds cool. I'll look it up, but Greatest Hits is probably cheaper so I probably won't bother.
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