Midiflipping
 

Just come across this intriguing concept on YouTube: take a piece of music and flip all the ups and downs - well, this guy explains it properly:-



And here's another well-known piece, midiflipped:-



The Fur Elise sounds familiar but strange at the same time, doesn't it?
I wonder if anybody else has comments, examples or interest in this process.

Interesting concept. I could see it being used as a composition tool playing things inverted to get new ideas. I guess with midi you could apply all sorts of mathematical formulas to a piece to see the results.

Yes, that's true. It could just be another step in the creative process, rather like Eno's Stuck-in-the-Studio box of suggestion cards.

(Here are the cards, slightly over-explained, for anyone who hasn't heard of them):

Damn, that first video is impossible to watch due to douchebag voice overload.

Lol I believe that is Pink Fluffy Unicorn guy.

It's Called INVERSION
 

Hello Musically Uneducated Rockers:

The technique that causing you all of that amazement and astonishment is known as inversion. INVERSION.

It's been in use since before the 16th century, and it was frequently used during the Baroque - which is the music style that predominated during the 16 and 17th centuries [that'd be the 1500's and 1600's].

Some other common techniques used then and used now are retrograde motion, retrograde inversion, augmentation, diminution, and so on.

What's particularly sad is that YOU - people who grew up on rock and roll* and zero music education - are absolutely ignorant of these simple, elementary, kindergarden music techniques.

It's not completely your fault. Music education's been deleted from schools. Heck - I understand that they've now also deleted history and social studies from schools.

Not only do you folks here not know what inversion is, you probably don't know what the Civil War --- or the Cold War --- was. At least some of may've heard those terms - but you're not really sure what they mean.

What you're really, really good at is tech.

And - texting - tattoos, loud motorcycles, multiple dogs, piercings -----

*To be clear - the phrase "rock and roll" includes all of it's vile forms, from cowntry to cRap to techno to hard rock to harder rock to still harder rock to soft rock to medium rock, etc. etc.

Jesus christ, aren't you a pretentious piece of ****?

Not only that but i'm pretty sure he is wrong on a lot of those points.... however I grew up on Rock and roll which makes me a "Checks post"

"A musically uneducated rocker"

This dude is a troll. Move along

Thinking Is Hard
 

All of the points I've made are simple, kindergarden music education. There's nothing advanced or abstruse about inversion, retrograde motion, etc. Those are basic, basic concepts. You either know them - or you don't.

So, exactly which point are wrong?

Inversion? Augmentation? What? That they exist? Or, that you can't grasp even those ultra-simple music concept?

The Baroque period occuring during the 16th and 17th centuries? That's pretty much a fact. You think that's wrong?

What else was there? Oh - fundamentals of music no longer being taught in schools. OK- maybe there're still 2 or 3 schools in the entire USA that still teach it - but - overall - it's gone/

That's about it for the facts that I posted. So, which of those make you think that there's some mistake?

Oh - the "think" part. Got it.

You have zero comprehension of what makes up modern music and rock in general do you?

I bet you found all of those facts on a wikipedia page somewhere looking for a place to troll. Why don't you have conversation instead of being a, to quote Tristan here, a pretentious piece of ****?

No - I'm not.

However, I do present uncomfortable facts and accurate observations about people and today's society that most folks have never paused to examine.

It makes folks such as you uncomfortable or angry. It's just like telling someone who hasn't bathed in over year that they smell - badly - and getting an outraged reaction.

hey neward pm me. i have something to tell you

Lmao I think you need to look up the word pretentious in a dictionary buddy

"SMOKE CRACK MUDA****KKA"

I'll check that dictionary, but in the meantime I'm impressed - as is everyone else in the world - by your eloquence, obvious accomplishments and success, and the evidence of your blazingly high intelligence.

You're a real pip.

Lol. I love you! Marry me and be my lover. I make you feel real good.

Just don't piss in his mouth or shove stuff in his dick. He tends to frown upon that.

I want to sig that...

I'm honoured, but I'm afraid the context would be lost.

Which would make it all the more perfect to sig it....

As am I

Everyone's Favorite?
 

Betting you're not Jewish. Take a genetic test. Do it. Prove it.

Bet you'll find zero Jewish genetic traces from anywhere in the world. Zero.

In fak, it'll probably reveal the exact opposite. Who knows? You might even derive from some illegitimate offspring of dim, low-level Aryan. Probably.

That'd explain a whole lot about your life - wouldn't it?

I wish that were true. But alas, religion is a choice you idiot.

For all the semi witty replies you have given, I really thought you'd have something better considering the lame jokes I was giving you. Instead you chose to make fun of a life choice by commenting on genetics. Braincells, use them.

You know what, I'll give you some information that'll be easier to work with.

I'm a constitutional conservative republican. Lots of room for jokes about me being a hick there.

I grew up in the middle of a forrest... I'm handing shit to you.

Alright, this next one better be good.

You mean like your choice of avatar?

You're Right - Good Jokes
 

"constitutional conservative republican"
As if you even had a clue as to what that is.

"I grew up in the middle of a forrest"
Look out.

"forrest"
Forest.
Reading is hard.

Weren't you just trolling batlord for being a grammar Nazi? Consistency.

"Look out." For what? Your intelligence? It's too small to concern myself with.

"As if you even have a clue as to what that is." Then enlighten us. And I'll know if you googled. I want you to get into the real details.

Oh, the disappointment. Can a mod ban him? He's not as much fun as I thought he'd be.

The funny thing is that this guy knows of only one "Civil War."

that dude's over-the-top pretentiousness shtick was amusing until he just started westboro blogging for some reason

*cough*

I'm always happy to see a thread bumped, especially when it's one of mine. So, Thanks Oriphiel - but it's disappointing that you have nothing to add. :(

I had to go back to page one to remember what midiflipping is - which was worth the effort as I got to read Neward Thelman's posts. Now excuse me please as I have to put a post lamenting his absence on the Missing Posters Bulletin Board.