Is classical music still relevant today?

Lucem Ferre · 10-27-2016, 03:37 PM

Classical songs like Fur Elise and Moonlight Sonata are iconic, so it is relevant.

Especially when songs like Lacrimosa are being put in cinema or video games all the time.

djchameleon · 10-28-2016, 09:59 AM

The only place it has in comparison to today's music. The question posed in the OP. Is that it is shoved into movie and video game soundtracks. It does have the same revelency among other popular genres in today's music.

**Frownland** · 10-28-2016, 10:16 AM

"Shoved in" lulz. Like any other genre, it can be used for increasing the efficacy of the visuals and has become a cliche because it is so effective. Just admit that you're wrong DJ.

"Today's music" is infinitely more ambiguous of an entity than it ever has been, too. 90% of "today's music" has not had a fraction of the success and recognition as the classic composers or even more modern ones like Julia Wolfe and David Lang. So in comparison to today's music, classical is more popular than it ever has been, since we're juxtaposing it to the music of the world today.

Lucem Ferre · 10-29-2016, 02:31 AM

Classical Music has to have active listeners for it to be put in Cinema or Video Games.

And it still inspires modern music. It's iconic. It's bigger than Kanye West. I'm sure more people recognize classical music than Kanye West music.

djchameleon · 11-05-2016, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

"Shoved in" lulz. Like any other genre, it can be used for increasing the efficacy of the visuals and has become a cliche because it is so effective. Just admit that you're wrong DJ.

I don't deny that but again it isn't what the OP was asking. Now let's address the second part of your post which is more relevant to the OP.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

"Today's music" is infinitely more ambiguous of an entity than it ever has been, too. 90% of "today's music" has not had a fraction of the success and recognition as the classic composers or even more modern ones like Julia Wolfe and David Lang. So in comparison to today's music, classical is more popular than it ever has been, since we're juxtaposing it to the music of the world today.

"Today's music" can be defined by what's popular on TOP 40 radio stations.
Those stations don't have classical pieces being played in heavy rotation. The majority of people listen to the radio whether they want to or not through work or just toss it to a TOP 40 station when they hop in the car. Be realistic. there is no way that classical music is more popular than most common genres. This isn't about success/record sales like you are trying to make it be about. This is about the reach of the music through radio stations. Sure there are a few classical radio stations but I bet they hardly get as many listeners as a TOP 40 station or Urban hip hop/R&B station or Country radio station.

**Frownland** · 11-05-2016, 03:41 PM

Music goes so far past top 40 that I didn't even both to read after that first sentence.

I guess it's just a fundamental disagreement between us that other music exists.

Lucem Ferre · 11-05-2016, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down

In comparison with today's music (pop, rock, metal, electronica, etc). Does classical music still have a place amongst today's audience, or has it been relegated to more specific listeners (i.e. music students, people learning instruments, elderly people)?

WHY or WHY NOT?

I don't see what extra **** is being pulled from the question that negates either of our points.

djchameleon · 11-05-2016, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Music goes so far past top 40 that I didn't even both to read after that first sentence.

I guess it's just a fundamental disagreement between us that other music exists.

Of course music goes past top 40.

Today's popular music doesn't though. The most listened too genres doesn't. It is like you are trying to say classical music is as popular as Pop, EDM or Hip hop.

**Frownland** · 11-07-2016, 06:05 PM

The charts are less representative of music culture today than it ever has given how fragmented it is. Death Grips never broke the top 40, do you think they're not relevant?

djchameleon · 11-08-2016, 06:36 AM

Death Grips is only relevant to the niche group of listeners that like abstract hip hop. They are good at what they do but on the grand scheme of things they aren't relevant to today's popular music.

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10-28-2016, 10:16 AM	#233 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	"Shoved in" lulz. Like any other genre, it can be used for increasing the efficacy of the visuals and has become a cliche because it is so effective. Just admit that you're wrong DJ. "Today's music" is infinitely more ambiguous of an entity than it ever has been, too. 90% of "today's music" has not had a fraction of the success and recognition as the classic composers or even more modern ones like Julia Wolfe and David Lang. So in comparison to today's music, classical is more popular than it ever has been, since we're juxtaposing it to the music of the world today. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

11-05-2016, 03:41 PM	#236 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Music goes so far past top 40 that I didn't even both to read after that first sentence. I guess it's just a fundamental disagreement between us that other music exists. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

11-07-2016, 06:05 PM	#239 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	The charts are less representative of music culture today than it ever has given how fragmented it is. Death Grips never broke the top 40, do you think they're not relevant? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

10-27-2016, 03:37 PM	#231 (permalink)
Lucem Ferre Cuter Than Post Malone. Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 4,978	Classical songs like Fur Elise and Moonlight Sonata are iconic, so it is relevant. Especially when songs like Lacrimosa are being put in cinema or video games all the time.

10-29-2016, 02:31 AM	#234 (permalink)
Lucem Ferre Cuter Than Post Malone. Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 4,978	Classical Music has to have active listeners for it to be put in Cinema or Video Games. And it still inspires modern music. It's iconic. It's bigger than Kanye West. I'm sure more people recognize classical music than Kanye West music.