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Old 04-17-2013, 03:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys!
My name's Joey.. I'm new to the forums.
I'm an aspiring young, freshman Musician at a University in the East.
I've always admired music, but had no background in studies before attending this college.

This post is in regards to an assignment I was given in my very first music class. I was directed to formally break down Mozart's symphony no. 40.

All aspects of the assignment have been completed, except one.

I am looking for help in determining SPECIFIC timings of the song, creating a simple formal diagram.

So far I, understand that it is sonata form, so I know that it will break down like this:
1) Primary Theme
2) Bridge
3) Secondary Theme
4) Development
5) Primary Theme Repeated
6) Bridge #2
7) Secondary Theme Repeated
8) Coda

HOWEVER- I can not determine exactly when the primary theme turns into a bridge, or when the second theme turns into the development, etc.

My question to you- can someone provide me with specific timings of when the formal diagram changes, so i can have a better understanding of what it truly means for the theme to change, and also so i will have a better understanding of ideas such as bridges?
(Example- primary theme.. 0:00 - x:xx.... bridge #1.. x:xx- z:zz.. etc.)

Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Joe

Ps. here's the link for the piece-

Mozart, Symphony No. 40 in G minor, first movement - YouTube
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have this entire symphony analyzed on a score. If you have a score with you, I can tell you the exact measures where everything breaks down like that.
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I do not have a score, however I actually am now aware of the specific timings in the piece (not sure if it's 100% accurate).

If you could help me dissect it by exact times in the youtube link attached it would mean the world, as for I can not make heads or tails of the piece.

1st Theme (bars 1-28)
Bridge Passage (bars 28-43)
2nd Subject (bars 44-100)
Development (bars 101-164)
Recapitulation 1st theme (164-184)
Bridge Passage (184-227)
2nd Subject (227-260)
Outro (261-299)
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I need to link up the changing of the bars with specific times in the video, and that is where I am having the problem. If that makes any sense
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I can try!
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classical music sounds complicated as f
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I feel sorry for you - music isn't something to analyze but enjoy. Good Luck
I can play this by ear on flute or piano maybe bc IMO it is one of his simpler pieces.
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When you enjoy something enough, the analysis can bring a deeper enjoyment. It's the difference between knowing that you enjoy something, and knowing why you enjoy it. I'm a musician myself, and this kind of study can reveal profound observations - of course only if you study truly great works such as a symphony by Mozart - in lesser composers there might not be so much to discover, no matter how hard you try.
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I feel sorry for you - music isn't something to analyze but enjoy. Good Luck
I can play this by ear on flute or piano maybe bc IMO it is one of his simpler pieces.
What if you enjoy analyzing?

Reminds me of something Miss Manners said in one of her books. (!) She said I don't know of any difference between thinking you are happy, and being happy.
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What if you enjoy analyzing?
point made
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