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The Music Guru.
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There are so many pieces I could suggest to you, but I'll try to keep this short and sweet for right now, so you're not absolutely bombarded with stuff to listen to. There has been some great suggestions made in here already, like his Cello Suites. Definitely check those out. I suggest:
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Many of Bach's original manuscripts have been unfortunately lost, that is true. Especially in regards to the cantatas he wrote as Cantor for the St. Thomas and St. Nicholas churches in Leipzig, Germany. Every Sunday, he had to have a different cantata prepared for that day's service. Approximately 200 of them have survived, and those are the only ones we know of today. The author also fails to mention what a toccata actually is, which makes me assume he doesn't actually know or understand what a toccata is. A toccata is a work composed for keyboard (sometimes also plucked string instruments like the guitar or the harp), which features virtuosity and fast moving sections that highlight the dexterity and talent of the performer. Toccatas also have a "looser" structure than was common at the time. They can be very intense pieces, and not all that complicated in terms of contrapuntal motion. Bach was a master of counterpoint, and his Toccata and Fugue in D minor certainly has counterpoint in it, but it's not as complicated or tightly structured as with his other pieces (most notably The Well-Tempered Clavier), because it doesn't have to be. The article does not state that Bach was also highly influenced by his predecessors in toccata composition, most notably by the toccatas for organ by Dietrich Buxtehude. Bach followed a Buxtehudian model for improvisatory composition, which includes toccatas. The author mentions that there are certain compositional features in the piece that are not "typical" of Bach's work, but he fails to mention that Bach often went against his own rules for composition - most of the time those deviations were small, and so have gone largely unnoticed. He also fails to mention that many of Bach's original manuscripts were further transcribed by his children for widespread publication after he died. Just so you know, Tore, I'm not ragging on you for sharing this article. Rather, I'm just simply bothered by the article. I think the claims made in this article, and by Peter Williams in his 1981 article, are completely ridiculous. Edit: Many original manuscripts by Renaissance and early Baroque composers (before Bach's time) no longer survived. Of course, mass printing was still fairly new at the time, and printing music for mass publication was extremely expensive and time consuming. Based on this fact, I think I'm going to go write a poorly cited, non-academic article stating that Palestrina's Missa Papae Marcelli or Monteverdi's opera L'Orfeo may have been composed by somebody else ![]() |
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Juicious Maximus III
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Burning Down, I'm just aware of the controversy, but not swayed to either side of it and not passionate enough about it to really do the research myself. If you want better arguments or references, you may be able to find some of that on the compositions wikipedia page
![]() Toccata and Fugue in D minor, BWV 565 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Regarding Bach - I would certainly recommend any of his Cantatas, depending on how much you like choral music. I love listening to them, but as a choral singer I would understand if I could be said to have more of an attachment to them than normal :P As Burning Down said, The Brandenburg Concertos and The Art of Fugue are also well worth listening to, The Art of Fugue particularly as it is one of those pieces that is crying out to be played with, and many pianists do, so you get everything from the classical, metronome interpretation that is often associated with Bach, to the weirdly weighted and rather different interpretations of Jazz Pianists like Joanna McGregor (I tried to find a clip on youtube of her contrapunctus interpretation, to no avail).
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One of my very favorite composers, and my favorite if we're going back to his era and the two that surround it (I know they're something like Baroque, Classical, and Romantic, but i don't know the order). Especially his organ pieces. I've heard there's a ton of symbolism in his composition as well, "numerically and religiously."
BTW, many artists are disgusting pigs. TS Eliot was apparently strongly antisemitic, and Picasso was a misogynist. Just to name a couple.
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