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Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 05-14-2011 07:26 PM

Futurist Composers
 
Looselips recommended me a Italian Futurist album last week, and I listened to it, and I was amazed. From beginning to end, fantastic composers. I want to start somewhere, but the guy I wanted to start with(Luigi Grandi) seems to have limited information. I can't even find list of the name of his works...

Any rate, it's brilliant music with twisted ideals. I recommend any fan of classical to check out:




Burning Down 05-14-2011 07:52 PM

Wow, those pieces are great. Thanks for posting. The second piece is really quite interesting, and it reminds me of another piece of music that I can't recall at the moment.

Engine 06-14-2011 04:14 PM

The Grandi one sounds like a soundtrack to an old Looney Toons cartoon - I don't much care for it.

The Guitini one is beautiful.

The Virgin 06-16-2011 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra (Post 1053460)
Looselips recommended me a Italian Futurist album last week, and I listened to it, and I was amazed. From beginning to end, fantastic composers. I want to start somewhere, but the guy I wanted to start with(Luigi Grandi) seems to have limited information. I can't even find list of the name of his works...

Any rate, it's brilliant music with twisted ideals. I recommend any fan of classical to check out:




i liked it. it's really great. nice vid. keep up the good work!

TockTockTock 07-01-2011 05:50 AM



Electroacoustic/noise music from 1913. If that doesn't amaze you then I don't know what will... (I'm really surprised there isn't already a thread on him)



This is from the Russian Futurism movement, actually... Composed in 1922, it uses recordings of planes, guns, singing, marching, sirens, etc to create a piece of music that you could call "proto-industrial." It's really quite amazing, and I think it's on par with Russolo's electroacoustic pieces. It's ominous, chilling, sad, and the man put a lot of work into it. The least you could do is give it a listen. :)

Farfisa 07-01-2011 10:09 PM

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

A great starting point for anyone new to futurist music.

TockTockTock 07-01-2011 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships (Post 1079751)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

A great starting point for anyone new to futurist music.

Yea, I downloaded that recently. The only only tracks that really grabbed my attention were the ones by the Russolos and "Cinque Sintesi Radiofoniche" by Filippo Tommaso Marinetti. Although, I'll admit that the piano pieces are very interesting and unique...

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 10-07-2011 01:35 PM

Learning to appreciate Russolo more, and more every day. I think it's safe to say he may be the most creative musician of the last two centuries, and in contendership for all time.

777by 10-14-2011 01:49 PM

There is an amazing album created by Hugo Race and Mario Merola it´s called "Merola Matrix" it mixes opera, classical with electronic and ambient. If you can´t find it write me, i´ll share it with you. sonicore2000@gmail.com

GidonRicardo 10-26-2011 01:28 AM

It's funny that no one actually mentions this. Isn't cinema music based on classical instruments a modern/futuristic music and yet, easy to listen to?
The basic Idea behind music is the movements between the notes in order to create a stimulation of our feelings. it can make you angry, it can make you sad, happy, loved, confused... etc etc...
however, noises are not music although they are fascinating as an IDEA.
I really believe that there should be a visible line between "original noise" and future music.

Adobe 10-26-2011 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra (Post 1053460)
Looselips recommended me a Italian Futurist album last week, and I listened to it, and I was amazed. From beginning to end, fantastic composers. I want to start somewhere, but the guy I wanted to start with(Luigi Grandi) seems to have limited information. I can't even find list of the name of his works...

Any rate, it's brilliant music with twisted ideals. I recommend any fan of classical to check out:






Love this!!

TockTockTock 10-26-2011 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GidonRicardo (Post 1113690)
however, noises are not music although they are fascinating as an IDEA.

How so?

Here are a few definitions of music:

1.) sounds, usually produced by instruments or voices, that are arranged or played in order to create an effect
2.) the art of arranging or making sounds

Noise (whether created through electronics or Russolo's electroacoustic instruments) is considered a type of sound, and if someone were to utilize them in a composition... then it is considered (by definition) to be music.

John Cage even argued that "non-musical" sounds, such as traffic, birds chirping, etc, could be considered music... but that is a far more liberal definition for the word (and a debate for another day).

Oh... and welcome to the site. Making your first post in the Futurist Composers thread is a plus in my book. :)

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 10-26-2011 03:46 PM

Actually, as long as you make it with a guitar, and throw it in a verse-chorus song, 99% of rockers will appreciate complete nonmelodic noise as music. Or, take hip-hop, which often assembles sounds entirely ignoring their pitches just on how they sound. Pop can be argued a lot of the same way.

In fact, noise music has infested various aspects of mainstream rock dating back to the 60s. I mean, Where would The Who be without the screechy feedbacky stuff? It's just... it has to be presented around music in a certain way to help people in disguising to themselves the fact they like it. I think it's a natural side effect of electronic amplification.

hip hop bunny hop 11-02-2011 10:12 PM

Question: are the composers mentioned in this thread futurist in aesthetic or ideology? I've always been under the impression Futurism was tied tightly to Fascism (not National Socialism)...

I know the in the early stages of the USSR futurist aesthetics, especially in architecture, were the official state style for a time but this was abandoned after a few years.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 11-02-2011 10:17 PM

Ideology. The Italian Futurist composers were tightly bound with the movement itself. I think even Filippo Tommaso Marinetti himself composed a few pieces.

Windy 11-04-2011 12:26 AM

When I listen to the music above I'll try hard to remember what futufist is and try to find the futurist elements in them, yet I just can't well appriciated them.:o:

However, I would like piano music like this. Don't I have good taste ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4urjF1JOKw4

Farfisa 11-04-2011 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Windy (Post 1116063)
When I listen to the music above I'll try hard to remember what futufist is and try to find the futurist elements in them, yet I just can't well appriciated them.:o:

I don't understand, how is that video relevant at all?

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 11-04-2011 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windy (Post 1116063)
When I listen to the music above I'll try hard to remember what futufist is and try to find the futurist elements in them, yet I just can't well appriciated them.:o:

However, I would like piano music like this. Don't I have good taste ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4urjF1JOKw4

See, this is what the futurists were talking about. Inferiority of the human form in instrument playing!!!


Windy 11-06-2011 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships (Post 1116064)
I don't understand, how is that video relevant at all?

There is no relevance at all. I just like that piece of piano music.:wave:


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