Giacinto Scelsi

Paedantic Basterd · 04-23-2011, 11:26 AM

Listening to The Orchestra Works 2 as performed by Peter Rundel and the ORF Vienna Radio Symphony Orchestra, and this is absolutely blowing my mind. I've had little to do with classical, modern or otherwise, outside of a bit of Rachmaninoff and sparing Scriabin, and neither one prepared me for this.

This is some of the most skin-crawling music I've ever heard. Where do I go with Scelsi after this?

Paedantic Basterd · 12-11-2011, 10:21 AM

I'm bumping this thread because I just remembered how ****ing sick Scelsi's work is, and a sample would probably help pique interest.

I've only heard the Orchestral Works 2 so far, which I've yet to find a copy of, so I've neglected the remainder of his work, but I get the feeling his piano and viola works are just as worthwhile.

neverasitseems · 12-15-2011, 06:53 PM

Thank you for sharing this, that was definitely worth my time to listen to!

Engine · 12-16-2011, 01:45 AM

I was raised by people with disdain for twentieth century composers so I was never exposed to this stuff. I like it though so I hope those in the know will post some more here.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 12-16-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine

I was raised by people with disdain for twentieth century composers

Child abuse!

As for Scelsi, I really like. Reminds me a lot of Ligeti's more out there works.

Engine · 12-19-2011, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

Child abuse!

Seriously! I thought my father would be proud when, as a kid, I tried to talk to him about Rites of Spring but he just kind of smirked and told me that Stravinsky doesn't count.

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Originally Posted by Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra

As for Scelsi, I really like. Reminds me a lot of Ligeti's more out there works.

I found this, and think it's pretty great:

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 12-19-2011, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Engine

I found this, and think it's pretty great:

As fantastic as it is, I meant more stuff like this:

Stephen · 12-19-2011, 03:12 PM

starrynight · 12-20-2011, 02:04 AM

Popular music does take things from classical, ambient music is no doubt another example. Often people think some popular music group is totally original in their sound, but often they are only really original within their genre, aspects of their music are often found in earlier more experimental music. That's why I think originality in popular music genres can get really overrated as people only look at something from the limited perspective of the more famous and publicised genre they are used to.

Engine · 12-20-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by starrynight

Popular music does take things from classical, ambient music is no doubt another example. Often people think some popular music group is totally original in their sound, but often they are only really original within their genre, aspects of their music are often found in earlier more experimental music. That's why I think originality in popular music genres can get really overrated as people only look at something from the limited perspective of the more famous and publicised genre they are used to.

Fascinating

I never thought of post-rock bands as sounding all that original but I suppose this explains why troglodytes like myself think Scelsi sounds like one?

04-23-2011, 11:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Giacinto Scelsi Listening to The Orchestra Works 2 as performed by Peter Rundel and the ORF Vienna Radio Symphony Orchestra, and this is absolutely blowing my mind. I've had little to do with classical, modern or otherwise, outside of a bit of Rachmaninoff and sparing Scriabin, and neither one prepared me for this. This is some of the most skin-crawling music I've ever heard. Where do I go with Scelsi after this?

12-16-2011, 01:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
Engine air quote Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: pollen & mold Posts: 3,108	I was raised by people with disdain for twentieth century composers so I was never exposed to this stuff. I like it though so I hope those in the know will post some more here. __________________ Like an arrow, I was only passing through.

12-20-2011, 02:04 AM	#9 (permalink)
starrynight Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 937	Popular music does take things from classical, ambient music is no doubt another example. Often people think some popular music group is totally original in their sound, but often they are only really original within their genre, aspects of their music are often found in earlier more experimental music. That's why I think originality in popular music genres can get really overrated as people only look at something from the limited perspective of the more famous and publicised genre they are used to. __________________ non-cliquey member of every music forum I participate on

12-11-2011, 10:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	I'm bumping this thread because I just remembered how ****ing sick Scelsi's work is, and a sample would probably help pique interest. I've only heard the Orchestral Works 2 so far, which I've yet to find a copy of, so I've neglected the remainder of his work, but I get the feeling his piano and viola works are just as worthwhile.

12-15-2011, 06:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
neverasitseems Groupie Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 20	Thank you for sharing this, that was definitely worth my time to listen to!

12-19-2011, 03:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
Stephen I sleep in your hat Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Melbourne, Vic. Aus. Posts: 1,850