What do you think of electronic remixes of classical songs?

ediebutt · 04-03-2011, 05:20 PM

I'm rather split, as I love Dance Dance Revolution, which has TONS of techno classical mixes that are super fun. Sometimes, though.... it just sounds so wrong. Anyone have a strong opinion one way or another?

danser_in_the_parc · 04-13-2011, 03:23 PM

Interesting topic, I have heard lots of great videogame music that mixes classical and techno to good effect and a fair bit of pop music too.
I've always liked the Pet Shop Boys and many of their songs have samples of classical music either in the intro or as part of the track,check out "all over the world" "left to my own devices"
and "Miracles". They also did an album called Battleship Potemkin mixing electronic music with classical its nothing amazing but does have a few interesting moments.

Gregor XIII · 04-13-2011, 05:40 PM

There has been a lot of bad electronic/classical hybrids. I heard someone made Disco-Lps in the seventies, which was a symphony orchestra playing famous themes over a discobeat... And there has been a lot of bad stuff like that. But it can be interesting. Mathew Herbert just did a remix of Mahlers unfinished 10th or something like that. And the way The Orb used Steve Reich in Little Fluffy Clouds is classic.

clutnuckle · 04-13-2011, 08:05 PM

It's generally (generally of course) one of the laziest, most unoriginal, most self-indulgent and downright disrespectful things to do in music. ESPECIALLY when all you're doing is taking Eine kleine Nachtmusik and putting BASSDRUM-HIHAT-CLAP-HIHAT over top of it, then inserting synths and calling it your own. Electronic music is brilliant when it seeks out new ways to express previously-discovered material. Sadly, the gap between now and the days of classical music (a ****ing vague way to talk about classical music but I digress) being at its peak are so far apart that few people living today have any idea on how to sample and arrange it in an interesting way (mostly because few people take the time to actually explore the incredibly rich variety of classical music that exists and just look at it briefly and without any depth).

Unless we're talking about 20th century New York composers, in which case, go wild. The gap is small and you can likely get just as much out of it as you can jazz.

Burning Down · 04-13-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by clutnuckle

It's generally (generally of course) one of the laziest, most unoriginal, most self-indulgent and downright disrespectful things to do in music. ESPECIALLY when all you're doing is taking Eine kleine Nachtmusik and putting BASSDRUM-HIHAT-CLAP-HIHAT over top of it, then inserting synths and calling it your own. Electronic music is brilliant when it seeks out new ways to express previously-discovered material. Sadly, the gap between now and the days of classical music (a ****ing vague way to talk about classical music but I digress) being at its peak are so far apart that few people living today have any idea on how to sample and arrange it in an interesting way (mostly because few people take the time to actually explore the incredibly rich variety of classical music that exists and just look at it briefly and without any depth).

Unless we're talking about 20th century New York composers, in which case, go wild. The gap is small and you can likely get just as much out of it as you can jazz.

Damn, you beat me to it. I totally agree with all of that.

Lisnaholic · 04-27-2011, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gregor XIII

There has been a lot of bad electronic/classical hybrids. I heard someone made Disco-Lps in the seventies, which was a symphony orchestra playing famous themes over a discobeat... And there has been a lot of bad stuff like that.

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Originally Posted by clutnuckle

It's generally (generally of course) one of the laziest, most unoriginal, most self-indulgent and downright disrespectful things to do in music. ESPECIALLY when all you're doing is taking Eine kleine Nachtmusik and putting BASSDRUM-HIHAT-CLAP-HIHAT over top of it, then inserting synths and calling it your own.

Although a lot less well-informed, I agree with Gregor XIII and clutknuckle too: there`s a lot more bad out there than good.

Is this the right place to mention Walter Carlos, who did some quite respectful transpositions of classical music to the moog synthesizer back in the early days of electronica ?

Howard the Duck · 04-27-2011, 10:40 AM

i don't like much merging classical with electronic

only update I did like was the disco version of Beethoven's 5th on the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack - that one is cool

~~Jymbot~~ · 05-03-2011, 09:35 AM

Sure disco/techno **** is going to do classical a disservice.

But there are many electronic transpositions of classical that are exemplary.

A fav being Kazdin & Sheperd -Everything youve wanted to know about the moog but were afraid to ask for

Tomita of course.

Camerata - The electronic Eric Satie

Kraft & Alexander - 1812 overture

Phantom Limb · 05-06-2011, 08:19 PM

I like it if this counts.

Palatable Vera · 05-06-2011, 09:11 PM

It's been a while since I've watched the movie, but I seem to remember a part of Beethoven's 9th Symphony being played with synthesizers or the like in A Clockwork Orange. But I could be completely wrong. I just remember lots of synthesizers and Beethoven.

I liked it though, whatever it was, but I'm pretty sure that it was just a transcription and not really a remix.

EDIT: I should really look more thoroughly for videos before posting. >.>

YouTube - A ClockWork Orange, Ultra Violence

04-03-2011, 05:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
ediebutt Groupie Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Colorado! Posts: 3	What do you think of electronic remixes of classical songs? I'm rather split, as I love Dance Dance Revolution, which has TONS of techno classical mixes that are super fun. Sometimes, though.... it just sounds so wrong. Anyone have a strong opinion one way or another?

04-13-2011, 05:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
Gregor XIII Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 57	There has been a lot of bad electronic/classical hybrids. I heard someone made Disco-Lps in the seventies, which was a symphony orchestra playing famous themes over a discobeat... And there has been a lot of bad stuff like that. But it can be interesting. Mathew Herbert just did a remix of Mahlers unfinished 10th or something like that. And the way The Orb used Steve Reich in Little Fluffy Clouds is classic. __________________ Agnes Varda's Le Bonheur + thoughts on women in Akhmatova and Mizuguchi: The Centrifugue

05-06-2011, 09:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
Palatable Vera Quad? Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 125	It's been a while since I've watched the movie, but I seem to remember a part of Beethoven's 9th Symphony being played with synthesizers or the like in A Clockwork Orange. But I could be completely wrong. I just remember lots of synthesizers and Beethoven. I liked it though, whatever it was, but I'm pretty sure that it was just a transcription and not really a remix. EDIT: I should really look more thoroughly for videos before posting. >.> YouTube - A ClockWork Orange, Ultra Violence __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/PalatableVera

04-13-2011, 03:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
danser_in_the_parc Groupie Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 15	Interesting topic, I have heard lots of great videogame music that mixes classical and techno to good effect and a fair bit of pop music too. I've always liked the Pet Shop Boys and many of their songs have samples of classical music either in the intro or as part of the track,check out "all over the world" "left to my own devices" and "Miracles". They also did an album called Battleship Potemkin mixing electronic music with classical its nothing amazing but does have a few interesting moments.

04-13-2011, 08:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
clutnuckle Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: -_-_-_-_~__~-~_-`_`-~_-`-~-~ Posts: 1,276	It's generally (generally of course) one of the laziest, most unoriginal, most self-indulgent and downright disrespectful things to do in music. ESPECIALLY when all you're doing is taking Eine kleine Nachtmusik and putting BASSDRUM-HIHAT-CLAP-HIHAT over top of it, then inserting synths and calling it your own. Electronic music is brilliant when it seeks out new ways to express previously-discovered material. Sadly, the gap between now and the days of classical music (a ****ing vague way to talk about classical music but I digress) being at its peak are so far apart that few people living today have any idea on how to sample and arrange it in an interesting way (mostly because few people take the time to actually explore the incredibly rich variety of classical music that exists and just look at it briefly and without any depth). Unless we're talking about 20th century New York composers, in which case, go wild. The gap is small and you can likely get just as much out of it as you can jazz.

04-27-2011, 10:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
Howard the Duck Live by the Sword Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 9,075	i don't like much merging classical with electronic only update I did like was the disco version of Beethoven's 5th on the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack - that one is cool

05-03-2011, 09:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
~~Jymbot~~ Account Disabled Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 21	Sure disco/techno **** is going to do classical a disservice. But there are many electronic transpositions of classical that are exemplary. A fav being Kazdin & Sheperd -Everything youve wanted to know about the moog but were afraid to ask for Tomita of course. Camerata - The electronic Eric Satie Kraft & Alexander - 1812 overture