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Hexenritt 10-31-2006 10:02 PM

Composing
 
How many amateur composers do we have here? People who write 'classical' stiles on paper, or with Finale! or Sibelius or something like that.

I'm one, I'm going to school for music actually, specifically composing. I've been writing music since I was 10 or so. Anyone else?

_Spinning_ 11-01-2006 03:34 PM

That's too much effort :)

But good for you ;)

littleknowitall 11-02-2006 06:23 AM

Only for my college assignments, and only because it's compulsary but i haven't started yet, and my poor understanding of a music stave i feel is going to let me down greatly when it comes to composing.

BrianB 12-09-2006 07:18 PM

Another Composer
 
I compose in a 'post modern/minimalist' style at times. I use Cakewalk Scorewriter because the musical font is nice and large. You can hear some of my efforts on my website. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post links yet, but if you are interested you can find the URL in my profile. Cheers!

jennajameson 04-06-2007 07:26 PM

I used to compose "classical" sounding music. But recently I haven't had much time.

allisonthepianist 05-03-2007 02:53 PM

I got my Bachelors in Composition. It's hard work! But very rewarding. I use Finale. I take inspiration from all different things...jazz, Latin, anything that sounds interesting to me and that I can incorporate into my music to make something that is personal and unique (hopefully).

Secretchord 11-01-2011 11:43 PM

Anybody familiar with Sibelius 7?

Howard the Duck 11-02-2011 12:19 AM

i "compose" only jazz, since most of it is improvisation, i wouldn't really call it "composing"

the base chords I do have to compose - or whether i'm using comps or vamps

what is on top is usually improvisation

i also compose "pop" songs - but that's kids' stuff

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra 11-02-2011 05:49 PM

The difference between composing, and just writing a song for me is simple. Songwriting usually involves focusing on the particular melodies, and relationships to words. Composing looks at the entire song as a piece.

Songwriting you work on individual melodies, and it's crucial that you focus on those melodies, and the strength in them.

Composing, melodies are simply transitional points that bring you to the next piece. Often composers steal chord structures, and play homage by transposing other people's melodies, and folk melodies. Not because they are unoriginal, but because the song as a whole is what's important.

I've personally done a little of both. I've never written a note because I can't read, or write music at all. Yet, I have composed full electronic pieces that bare many resemblances to composing rather than songwriting:

http://www.archive.org/download/Nero.../11Chap3NC.mp3

Howard the Duck 11-02-2011 10:47 PM

i can read music to some extent, not really good at different time-lengths for each note

Siddi 11-06-2011 07:11 AM

I compose piano pieces as a hobby. Nothing special, but it is fun for me.

RKcello 11-14-2011 08:29 PM

I'm also an amateur composer, and would have liked to pursue it academically. But I chose the performance route instead. I mostly write pieces for cello, or small chamber ensembles. Haven't had much time recently to write anything, that seems to be a reoccurring problem for a lot of hobbyist composers. It takes a lot of commitment to write a piece, and a lot of people have difficulty finding time.

SIRIUSB 11-14-2011 08:38 PM

It would be nice to hear some of everyone's work here . . . . not gonna happen though.

NeonAardvark 11-19-2012 06:41 AM

I've written an album of classical piano music:
soundcloud.com/azural/sets/classical-piano-1

When I was a child I would write overly ambitious piano music that I couldn't play (and once an attempted symphony).

LookingForaMelody 11-26-2012 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeonAardvark (Post 1251981)
I've written an album of classical piano music:
soundcloud.com/azural/sets/classical-piano-1

When I was a child I would write overly ambitious piano music that I couldn't play (and once an attempted symphony).

I kinda liked
"Brewed By Arclight."
It was original, refreshing, but kinda repeats itself in unnecessary ways sometimes. Keep working hard, you have some real talent.

Lovieheidi 12-22-2012 12:46 PM

I've just finished composing a piece. And would like peoples opinions.

Sulliadm 01-24-2013 08:08 PM

I'm an amateur composer. I write in a very minimalistic style, but I have a love for just about everything. I'm in the process of creating my own style of aleatoric "method" for composing... And I have a very open heart for John Cage's music XD

Sulliadm 01-24-2013 08:08 PM

I'd love to see/hear it!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lovieheidi (Post 1266889)
I've just finished composing a piece. And would like peoples opinions.


MikeWardMusician 02-17-2013 03:31 PM

I love sitting at a piano and using a good old pencil and paper, now a days i do use sibelious if im scoring something.

trackrabbit21 02-19-2013 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sulliadm (Post 1278807)
I'm an amateur composer. I write in a very minimalistic style, but I have a love for just about everything. I'm in the process of creating my own style of aleatoric "method" for composing... And I have a very open heart for John Cage's music XD

What do you mean when you say minimalistic?

Will-O'-The-Wisp 02-22-2013 12:06 AM

I've been writing music since I was about 12 (I'm 25 now) and have used Finale in many years.

IsotopeBill 04-04-2013 06:06 AM

I compose very loosely in classical styles. Wouldn't be able to classify it as solely classical, I can only write things that touch upon it slightly.

ZiggyStardust 04-14-2013 12:35 PM

Is it only me that can't write good music? I nearly always end up just stealing a riff from another song. I'm currently doing Music at university but I know they'll probably fail you if you directly copy something. I once got disqualified from a performance exam because my piece sounded too close to Roy Orbison's Pretty Woman.

Burning Down 04-14-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1307001)
Is it only me that can't write good music? I nearly always end up just stealing a riff from another song. I'm currently doing Music at university but I know they'll probably fail you if you directly copy something. I once got disqualified from a performance exam because my piece sounded too close to Roy Orbison's Pretty Woman.

You will not only get a failing grade, you will likely be expelled for plagiarism if you copy material directly without proper credit. That will make it really hard, if not impossible, to enroll in any other school (even if you go to another country - your transcript follows you!)

That being said, there is only much you can do until your compositions start sounding vaguely familiar to people. But it takes a while to get to that point. Start by experimenting with odd harmonic progressions or time signatures, and use block chords to create this progression. Once you have something, come up with a melody of sorts based on those chords, that also fits into the key and time signatures you chose. Since you're in music, I assume you can read and write music. Notate your song on manuscript paper as you go along. This will make it easier to see what direction your music is headed in.

Zack 08-14-2013 09:38 PM

Got one right here. Fun stuff. If only there were as many high-scale orchestras just DYING to play the music of unknown composers out there...

jekluc 08-22-2013 03:55 AM

I myself am an amateur composer.

JasonSomethi Ng 09-01-2013 12:03 AM

I dont even bother with notation software. I just play and record it right into a DAW. I guess ill write out the notes if any real musicians offer to perform my works one day xD

jaliyworld 09-10-2013 10:20 AM

Hy,
I compose electro music, but i am at the beginning a pianist playingChopin.
I havé composed a small pièce of classic music. The other tracks are electro. Search on soundcloud "jaliyworld" and listen to birthofesperance... That the classical one.
Enjoy it. Bye

MagicAfternoon 09-10-2013 10:55 AM

Notation on paper may be a lost art...

I've been working on transcribing & rearranging Tuvan folk songs for Band & Orchestra, & I'm also writing an electro-acoustic piece for chamber strings called "Disney's ****tales"

is there any money in sheet music anymore? are orchestras using kindles yet?

Plankton 09-10-2013 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicAfternoon (Post 1365401)
Notation on paper may be a lost art...

I've been working on transcribing & rearranging Tuvan folk songs for Band & Orchestra, & I'm also writing an electro-acoustic piece for chamber strings called "Disney's ****tales"

is there any money in sheet music anymore? are orchestras using kindles yet?

A friend of mine owns a resale shop and has been getting top dollar for old sheet music scores. She wanted to know if I had any. I laughed for a good while then told her no.

Spykakos 01-29-2014 02:50 PM

I am a young composer and I mainly use musescore. I have composed small pieces but I am hoping that someday I will be composing whole symphonies :D

Silenzio 01-30-2014 08:13 AM

Musescore is a nice program to work with. :) Did you already share some sheet music?
I've kinda tried to compose but stopped. Are you a tonal or atonal composer?

Spykakos 01-30-2014 03:12 PM

Edited: It truly is! Yes I have shared every composition I have made. I think that I am both tonal and atonal but I am not so sure.

boneman 03-30-2014 02:09 AM

I compose and arrange almost daily. Apart from teaching, conducting and performing it is what I do for a living.

boneman 03-30-2014 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spykakos (Post 1411533)
I am a young composer and I mainly use musescore. I have composed small pieces but I am hoping that someday I will be composing whole symphonies :D

Good luck with your ambitions Spykakos!

boneman 03-30-2014 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spykakos (Post 1411825)
Edited: It truly is! Yes I have shared every composition I have made. I think that I am both tonal and atonal but I am not so sure.

Please share your music so that we can listen to it.

boneman 03-30-2014 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust (Post 1307001)
Is it only me that can't write good music? I nearly always end up just stealing a riff from another song. I'm currently doing Music at university but I know they'll probably fail you if you directly copy something. I once got disqualified from a performance exam because my piece sounded too close to Roy Orbison's Pretty Woman.

I am sure that you must be able to think of a small theme/motif without reference to something else. Then you can develop it.

boneman 03-30-2014 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lovieheidi (Post 1266889)
I've just finished composing a piece. And would like peoples opinions.

Can you post a link to your piece so that we can give you an opinion?

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 03-30-2014 08:23 PM

^ That post was from December 2012, and it was the only person's post. I've got a feeling we won't hear from them.

boneman 03-31-2014 01:07 AM

Shame !


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