Terrible Avant-Garde/Experimental Artists

**Frownland** · 12-21-2014, 01:01 AM

This is the thread wherein you talk shit on avant-garde music you don't like. I try to be pretty open minded when it comes to music, but there are many times when I'll listen to an artist and think "well this guy just sucks." Most of the time it's something that's gotten a lot of hype on Pitchfork and the likes, but sometimes it's an avant-garde band and I'm afraid whether or not I've missed the point. I'll usually return to it in those cases, but there are many times where I'm just sure that these people make shite music.

Opening example:

I have nothing bad to say about Zorn, his off-the-wall saxophonisms are great and this video is no exception. Yoko Fucking Ono is horrendous in this one, though. She sounds like Sainkho Namtchylak's retarded cousin getting attacked by a goat. Not even a threatening or dangerous animal, a fucking goat. John Zorn, you obviously have a lot of time on your hands since you release at least 15 albums a year, but fuck. You're John Zorn. You can jam with anyone you want who doesn't sound like a monkey with autism trying to speak Hmong.

tl;dr: What avant-garde artists do you think suck donkey balls?

grindy · 12-21-2014, 01:22 AM

Wow. That was terrible.
That's how I imagine all "experimental" singing sounds like to people who aren't into it.

Overcast · 12-21-2014, 02:51 AM

My mind has transcended the space-time continuum. My body has abandoned its mortal shell to find itself in a tangent universe similar to hell, but there are a bunch of clowns there that tell horrible jokes and dance as you burn. I don't know whether to laugh, cringe or blow my brains out after listening to and watching that. My entire being feels traumatized.

Thanks... I think.

Machine · 12-21-2014, 06:03 AM

Really to be honest everything I've heard Yoko sing just blows huge ass no avant garde in my opinion just balls.

Zhanteimi · 12-21-2014, 06:20 AM

That John Cage asshole is...an asshole, too.

Yoko Ono sucks balls. My friends saw her at Fuji Rock this summer and cried (lol) at her performance because they were touched by her music. They're no longer my friends.

In other words, Yoko Ono is a douchebag, a donkey, a totally weiner face. Baby, she wants to pee in her panties.

**Frownland** · 12-21-2014, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

Never really understood the John Zorn circle jerk.

Naked City were entertaining for a short while as were Painkiller but I find most of his other stuff that I've heard just outright forgettable.

Give me some Soil & Pimp Sessions or Acoustic Ladyland over his tuneless drivel anyday.

He's got a million different styles though.

That's not even the tip of the tip of the air above the iceberg.

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Originally Posted by mordwyr

That John Cage asshole is...an asshole, too.

Asshole's not the right word; Cage has a notoriety for being one of the more humble and nice composers in the music world. It's a shame that one composition has closed your mind to Cage though, he's made thousands of great classical compositions.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 12-21-2014, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

That's not even the tip of the tip of the air above the iceberg.

I've listened to at least 7 or 8 of his solo albums from the 80s to the present day (Not including Painkiller, Naked City or a few of his collaborations) and nothing on them did anything for me.
Collaborating with other artists, fine,
Him on his own, not really interested.

**Frownland** · 12-21-2014, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

I've listened to at least 7 or 8 of his solo albums from the 80s to the present day (Not including Painkiller, Naked City or a few of his collaborations) and nothing on them did anything for me.
Collaborating with other artists, fine,
Him on his own, not really interested.

What'd you listen to? Personally, I find his Filmworks series underwhelming.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 12-21-2014, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland

What'd you listen to? Personally, I find his Filmworks series underwhelming.

My memory is a little foggy on some of them but I know I've heard the Big Gundown, Spy vs Spy, one of his real early ones possibly Archery, Godard/Spillane and couple of filmworks albums and a couple that he released in the mid 2000s which names escape me because I didn't keep them.

I think listening to 12-15 albums of someone is a fair crack of the whip.

**Janszoon** · 12-21-2014, 07:23 AM

I haven't heard much Scott Walker, but what I have heard I really dislike.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Terrible Avant-Garde/Experimental Artists This is the thread wherein you talk shit on avant-garde music you don't like. I try to be pretty open minded when it comes to music, but there are many times when I'll listen to an artist and think "well this guy just sucks." Most of the time it's something that's gotten a lot of hype on Pitchfork and the likes, but sometimes it's an avant-garde band and I'm afraid whether or not I've missed the point. I'll usually return to it in those cases, but there are many times where I'm just sure that these people make shite music. Opening example: I have nothing bad to say about Zorn, his off-the-wall saxophonisms are great and this video is no exception. Yoko Fucking Ono is horrendous in this one, though. She sounds like Sainkho Namtchylak's retarded cousin getting attacked by a goat. Not even a threatening or dangerous animal, a fucking goat. John Zorn, you obviously have a lot of time on your hands since you release at least 15 albums a year, but fuck. You're John Zorn. You can jam with anyone you want who doesn't sound like a monkey with autism trying to speak Hmong. tl;dr: What avant-garde artists do you think suck donkey balls? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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grindy . Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: . Posts: 7,201	Wow. That was terrible. That's how I imagine all "experimental" singing sounds like to people who aren't into it. __________________ *A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.*

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Machine moon lake inc. Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,125	Really to be honest everything I've heard Yoko sing just blows huge ass no avant garde in my opinion just balls. __________________ boost my ego listen to me stroke my delay pedal ever wanted to hear death grips songs... but they're acoustic? me neither.

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Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	I haven't heard much Scott Walker, but what I have heard I really dislike. __________________ A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man Time & Place 25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die last.fm

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Overcast . Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: . Posts: 1,531	My mind has transcended the space-time continuum. My body has abandoned its mortal shell to find itself in a tangent universe similar to hell, but there are a bunch of clowns there that tell horrible jokes and dance as you burn. I don't know whether to laugh, cringe or blow my brains out after listening to and watching that. My entire being feels traumatized. Thanks... I think.

12-21-2014, 06:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
Zhanteimi Mord Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tokyo Posts: 4,873	That John Cage asshole is...an asshole, too. Yoko Ono sucks balls. My friends saw her at Fuji Rock this summer and cried (lol) at her performance because they were touched by her music. They're no longer my friends. In other words, Yoko Ono is a douchebag, a donkey, a totally weiner face. Baby, she wants to pee in her panties.