Avantgarde/experimental fans among your friends/relatives etc.

grindy · 10-13-2014, 12:22 PM

Without going too much into details about which music should be considered avantgarde/experimental: Are you surrounded by many people (friends/relatives/significant others/colleagues/friendly mailmen) who like this stuff?

I am surrounded by a lot of smart and wonderful people, many of them love music, there are a two or three I can take with me to some weird concerts, but none of them are actively interested in such music and would seek it out themselves.
Also at such concerts most people are at best in their fifties and since I am in my late twenties we might have similar tastes, but I don’t think hanging out would be much fun.

What’s your situation?

**Frownland** · 10-13-2014, 12:27 PM

My family hates experimental music for the most part. My closest friend and bandmates has very similar taste to mine and he's also my concert buddy. The rest of my friends just aren't into it.

Your point about concerts reminds me of when I saw Jandek. The crowd was made up of sad looking middle aged men and hipsters, pretty much what I expected.

grindy · 10-13-2014, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

My family hates experimental music for the most part. My closest friend and bandmates has very similar taste to mine and he's also my concert buddy. The rest of my friends just aren't into it.

Your point about concerts reminds me of when I saw Jandek. The crowd was made up of sad looking middle aged men and hipsters, pretty much what I expected.

A friend I might consider my closest, with whom I sometimes play, does generally "get" free improvisation, but whenever we improvise it tends to become soloing over a groove at some point. It's still fun, but...
Would love if there were more of us and we could start some kind of band.

Are there lots of such concerts in your vicinity?
I shouldn't complain, lots of musicians I like came to my town or somewehere near, but those concerts do seem to get rarer and rarer.
And there aren't even hipsters at ours. Most of the people seem to be free jazz fans from way back.
I wonder if the demographics are different in other countries or in bigger and more "cultural" cities.

EPOCH6 · 10-13-2014, 02:17 PM

Out of my social circle there are 4 or 5 of us that actively seek out experimental music and eagerly share it. Coming from a fairly small town there are literally maybe 3 active standalone music scenes here: the EDM/club scene, the punk scene, and the experimental electronic / breakcore scene. The experimental scene only exists among basement parties but the sets that are organized are usually enthusiastically and energetically supported by a very close circle of weirdos, which is great. Some of us have occasionally ventured into Vancouver to see larger experimental shows like Merzbow or larger breakcore line-ups but it's usually a lot tamer and generally feels a lot more self-conscious / tamed than tightly knit small town shows.

grindy · 10-13-2014, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EPOCH6

Out of my social circle there are 4 or 5 of us that actively seek out experimental music and eagerly share it. Coming from a fairly small town there are literally maybe 3 active standalone music scenes here: the EDM/club scene, the punk scene, and the experimental electronic / breakcore scene. The experimental scene only exists among basement parties but the sets that are organized are usually enthusiastically and energetically supported by a very close circle of weirdos, which is great. Some of us have occasionally ventured into Vancouver to see larger experimental shows like Merzbow or larger breakcore line-ups but it's usually a lot tamer and generally feels a lot more self-conscious / tamed than tightly knit small town shows.

Damn... I want our town to have such a circle of weirdos. Or perhaps it does have one and they've been so underground I haven't found them yet...

Black Francis · 10-13-2014, 03:04 PM

Among my friends im one of the few who likes experimental bands, my best friend sorta has the same taste as me and likes experimental bands but we sometimes differ in taste with individual artists, exmpl he likes Tame impala and i don't.

Also neither of us knows alot about experimental groups because there is no music scene like that here so the experimental rock groups we've found so far are the ones we find over the net.
That's why idk alot of artists in this genre, i have no one arounds me who likes them and can recommend me a few.

that's actually one of the main reasons i joined this forum, to learn about other genres and different bands

grindy · 10-13-2014, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

Among my friends im one of the few who likes experimental bands, my best friend sorta has the same taste as me and likes experimental bands but we sometimes differ in taste with individual artists, exmpl he likes Tame impala and i don't.

Also neither of us knows alot about experimental groups because there is no music scene like that here so the experimental rock groups we've found so far are the ones we find over the net.
That's why idk alot of artists in this genre, i have no one arounds me who likes them and can recommend me a few.

that's actually one of the main reasons i join this forum, to learn about other genres and different bands

May I ask which country you live in and whether yours is a big town?

Black Francis · 10-13-2014, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

May I ask which country you live in and whether yours is a big town?

Puerto Rico and idk, medium sized?

it's on the city though but around here almost everybody listens to Reggaeton and rap music not much else, the rocker kids mainly come from the rich areas but around where i live you barely see one.

i grew up in another city close to those kinda kids and they're the ones who introduced me to drugs and rock n roll.

Pet_Sounds · 10-13-2014, 05:52 PM

Among my circle of friends and family, I'm the only one who enjoys any sort of experimental music. None of them appreciate even the most accessible psychedelia. For example, a friend once asked me what I listened to. I played him the Beatles' "Tomorrow Never Knows". He said, "That can't be the Beatles, they made rock!" AARGH!

**Frownland** · 10-13-2014, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

A friend I might consider my closest, with whom I sometimes play, does generally "get" free improvisation, but whenever we improvise it tends to become soloing over a groove at some point. It's still fun, but...
Would love if there were more of us and we could start some kind of band.

Are there lots of such concerts in your vicinity?
I shouldn't complain, lots of musicians I like came to my town or somewehere near, but those concerts do seem to get rarer and rarer.
And there aren't even hipsters at ours. Most of the people seem to be free jazz fans from way back.
I wonder if the demographics are different in other countries or in bigger and more "cultural" cities.

I live about an hour away from LA so there's a lot of stuff going on there.

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Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	Among my friends im one of the few who likes experimental bands, my best friend sorta has the same taste as me and likes experimental bands but we sometimes differ in taste with individual artists, exmpl he likes Tame impala and i don't. Also neither of us knows alot about experimental groups because there is no music scene like that here so the experimental rock groups we've found so far are the ones we find over the net. That's why idk alot of artists in this genre, i have no one arounds me who likes them and can recommend me a few. that's actually one of the main reasons i joined this forum, to learn about other genres and different bands __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A Last edited by Black Francis; 10-13-2014 at 03:50 PM.

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Pet_Sounds Remember the underscore Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: The other side Posts: 2,488	Among my circle of friends and family, I'm the only one who enjoys any sort of experimental music. None of them appreciate even the most accessible psychedelia. For example, a friend once asked me what I listened to. I played him the Beatles' "Tomorrow Never Knows". He said, "That can't be the Beatles, they made rock!" AARGH! __________________ Everybody's dying just to get the disease