OccultHawk

I don't know why it's so hard for some people to believe that other people listen to good music.

Urban Hat€monger ?

Didn't say it they weren't good. I don't mind Trout Mask Replica.

I just don't feel the need to hear it that often.

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Ashra

For me both are great records, but i feel TMR edges it. Both reside in my record collection, never saw the Velvets, just Lou Reed, and saw the Captain just the once.

RoxyRollah

TMR was a little much for me but I love safe as milk...

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SATCHMO

Von Vliet and Nico are on equal footing with me as having voices that make me want to gouge my eyes out with a grapefruit spoon. [...]& Nico has the advantage as an album of having songs where she is not featured.

Lisnaholic

That description is unpleasantly graphic, SATCHMO. Promise me you´ll lock up all your spoons before you click on this :-

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SATCHMO

What can I say? That was just badass. Definitely enough to make me cast my vote for Team Beefheart.


































I did lock up all the silverware beforehand though.

Thinkofthechildren

Voting for trout mask replica is the 'official' thing to vote for. But come on people, its just a bunch of tripe. VU&Nico is songwriting 101, text book music.

Lisnaholic

^ I´m happy to see that with your help, presumably, "Team Beefheart" is winning the poll at the moment. Beefheart´s narrow lead seems to be upsetting somebody, though :-

Sorry to be argumentative, Thinkofthechildren, but I would like to dispute a couple of things you said:-

(i) at least you opted to put inverted commas around the word "official", because of course there´s no such thing in this case. There´s no coersion; you don´t even have to admit who you voted for if you don´t want to.

(ii) plenty of posts here indicate that plenty of people don´t consider Trout Mask "a bunch of tripe". Maybe it has some virtues that you are overlooking.

(iii)"VU&Nico is songwriting 101, text book music." Not entirely sure what you mean by this and not entirely convinced that it´s a good thing for an album to be.

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Thinkofthechildren

Sure trout mask is more avant garde and innovative, and VU&nico is technically generic, yet its the most unique music, lyrics, emotion and sounds you will ever hear. Everything on VU&nico has been done before it was released and after, but why is it seen as one of the bench-points of alternative music, of avant garde, when actually its neither? You can explain trout mask replica, it is groundbreaking. You cannot explain VU&Nico, which actually makes it ironically even more groundbreaking.