| mr dave |
04-03-2012 09:27 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by SIRIUSB
(Post 1117580)
I realized how difficult it was to maintain this type of improv, it was brutally honest, to yourself at the very least, you can't lie to yourself, you know when you are 'really' free-formin' and when you were not.
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I find it's like a transcendental meditative exercise where in retrospect you can tell when your conscious mind 'shuts off' and you're able to experience the music in the moment, being everything and nothing at once and existing with the sound of your note in the moment.
As you mentioned, getting over the Ego is the biggest challenge. It's the distinction between a situation like Freebase Dali mentions with a typical rock band farting out randomness until the singer starts whining and a group of musicians creating something special. I find a lot of musicians are hung up on their ego, it limits the musical risks they're willing to take for fear of saving face.
As for Group Ongaku, I think it's splitting hair at this point. From what I gather they started around the same time as Ornette Coleman was solidifying his philosophical approach to music. Being on opposite sides of the planet in an era before instant communication I think it's more of a combined random synergistic approach to a new style rather than any sort of copycat action.
Though I'd suggest digging for a pre-1959 clip if you're going to make the claim they invented the style. |
