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No idea what to vote on...
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Haha - should I be offended that no one is voting for my rec? It legitimately is pretty out there, whilst maintaining some manner of musicality.
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Haha, no, its turn will come. I won't be adding new suggestions for a while, 'cause there are a couple of old recs still not elected.
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Not really worth pointing out, but... it's Arthur Russell, not Arthur Russel
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Oh yeah, good catch. I'll add an l.
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Since there was a three way tie, let's vote again for these three options: Nuclear Rabbit, Hermann Nitsch or Konstantin Raudive.
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^I've listened to 4 Art Zoyd albums so far, but not that one. I think I've heard one track from it and it was very different from their early work.
Anyway, the voting is over. I arrived to another tie and it was on me to untie it. Konstantin Raudive interests me more, tbh, but I decided to vote for Nuclear Rabbit, because it's in the poll for too long, being one of the first suggestions. So, this week we're listening to Nuclear Rabbit - Vicuna Quote:
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Hmmm... wonder where Mr.D00d has been. Hopefully his interest didn't just fizzle out, and he left.
Anyway, I'd like to be first in line for the link registries. |
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Oops, sorry, I almost forgot to reset the poll. With a little delay you can start voting now.
Oh and, I will include Art Zoyd in the next poll. I want to give a chance to albums that are in there for too long to be selected. |
Have one suggestion. It's called Live at the Zodiak - Berlin 1968 (2009).
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg It's by an early Krautrock band called Human Being. It's pretty much a noise rock/experimental/krautrock/free improvisation album. It has only one track that lasts 56 minutes and 34 seconds. Just by listening to ten minutes of it I can tell you this seems like a great and interesting album to check out. These guys do a better job at summing it up: Music Review: Human Being - Live at the Zodiak Thanks to Noise, I was able to obtain a download. :D |
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Sorry guys for the delay. My internet connection was bugging me last night, I couldn't post at all.
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I completely forgot about nominating that album. Good to see it finally won, though.
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And this week we're listening to Konstantin Raudive - Voices of the Dead
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I have a new candidate:
http://images.musicnet.com/albums/049/931/025/a.jpeg Ives Plays Ives The Complete Recordings of Charles Ives at the Piano, 1933-1943 Amazon.com: Ives Plays Ives The Complete Recordings of Charles Ives at the Piano, 1933-1943: Charles Ives: Music Quote:
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It's time I suggest something again. Don't see her mentioned on this forum at all. Therefore, I suggest:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H...olmenMusic.jpg Meredith Monk - Dolmen Music (1981) This suggestion is partly inspired by this month's minimalist compilation and partly by the fact that we haven't listened to any vocal acrobatics in this album club. Those of you who are familiar with Meredith Monk, I guess you already know this album. She's a New York minimalist composer best known for her unique and brave vocal explorations. She's also a filmmaker and some of her works include theater and dance. This album is probably best known of her work. It showcases her innovations as a vocalist, accompanied by minimal music. Despite being very adventurous and unpredictable in that regard, it's wonderfully listenable, which is something I admire greatly. No matter how stumped you may be at first, her voice evokes a wide range of emotions, from deeply personal to those universal and archetypal. |
Yes Meredith Monk is good.
But I wonder how you define experimental as it can crossover into over areas like jazz and classical. I would say Charles Ives for instance is classical. |
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I don't mind, people can categorize things however they want (I'm not arguing over issues like that), it just seems an interesting thing to look at. Experimental can cover all genres, just like at the other extreme perhaps pop can too. Every genre has a more experimental side, but also a more pop side.
And on this particular thing I suppose it depends how you define extreme dissonance, others had used harsh dissonance before him. Whatever his influence may or may not be the music still has to stand on it's own merit of course. And I tend to more interested in that than who may have done something first or who influenced others or not. |
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i won't be able to participate for a few more weeks due to particularly taxing obligations, but it's still nice to read up on the most recent threads. i'm jealous of the selections i'll likely be missing out on :/
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And how do you measure dissonance? Some pieces I like by Ives aren't dissonant really anyway. So all I care about is whether I like the music not some technical details.
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But in what form? The use of dissonance in music could go back to Jean-Fery Rebel's The Elements, Haydn's Creation, Mozart's Dissonance Quartet. Ives uses it apparently as a contrast to tonal elements in some of his pieces as well. Prokofiev may have done some early dissonant piano pieces.
One area Ives may have been original - if it really matters - is polytonality. Not sure many composers since have really used that technique (again, if it really matters whether it's influential or not). I think the crucial knowledge for people listening to experimental music is really just getting used to a style a piece of music is in That could be classical, jazz, electronica or other kinds of music |
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