Ambient, industrial, noise, etc...

sidewinder · 03-25-2010, 11:39 PM

Maybe I'm the one that's confused.

I might have mistaken it for another track. Or, maybe I liked the music enough that it made up for the vocals.

It could be that this album needs more time than I've given it. I mean I've probably played it 4 times in the ~17 years I've owned it, maybe it's just hard to digest and hasn't sunk in. And I was "working" while playing it, so I didn't give it my full attention either.

**Janszoon** · 03-26-2010, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sidewinder

Maybe I'm the one that's confused.

I might have mistaken it for another track. Or, maybe I liked the music enough that it made up for the vocals.

It could be that this album needs more time than I've given it. I mean I've probably played it 4 times in the ~17 years I've owned it, maybe it's just hard to digest and hasn't sunk in. And I was "working" while playing it, so I didn't give it my full attention either.

One thing I was wondering too is if your perception of the album is somewhat brought down by all the pointless bonus tracks they tacked on to the end of the CD. My original copy of the album was on cassette so I still tend to perceive "Weightless" as the last song and just disregard the remaining five tracks as not really part of the album. With the exception of the "Little Sisters" remix, those songs really are pretty pointless.

sidewinder · 03-26-2010, 10:52 AM

You know, I thought about that too before I listened. So I checked RYM to see what the original track listing was and the default listing showed 16 tracks. And it's actually the only listing, which is surprising because the site is usually pretty accurate with tape, vinyl, CD, import and whatever listings with track lists. Had I seen the shorter original track list, I would have done what you did and just played 1-12. That could definitely be a factor. I should have checked discogs.com.

Damn CD bonus tracks. I wish they'd at least always identify them as bonus tracks. I didn't find out until last year some time that early Skinny Puppy albums and Aphex Twin's RDJ Album were loaded with bonus tracks on the CDs. I always thought SP's Bites and Remission were long albums when in reality, Bites had 9 tracks (17 on the CD) and Remission was a 6-track EP (11 on the CD). The original UK release of RDJ Album was 10 tracks and the original US release was 15 tracks. I've ranted about this elsewhere on the forum before.

Fuck bonus tracks...just put them on an EP or something.

crow t robot · 04-01-2010, 01:18 AM

some ambient stuff i dig:

Stars of the Lid
Aphex Twin's Ambient stuff
Loscil
William Basinski
Brian Eno
The Dead Texan
Isotope 217

ikvat · 04-01-2010, 09:37 AM

Orka is more than interesting.
I posted a topic (without success) about their stuff some month ago.

ORKA on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Downloads

Joshua A.C. Newman · 04-02-2010, 12:03 PM

Oo! I like this Orka!

littlebatty · 04-03-2010, 12:19 PM

"humans and objects built by humans would rot alike, the ripe meatiness of 'Hamburger Lady' vying with the failings of tape machines"

OctaneHugo · 04-27-2010, 02:38 PM

Right now the only industrial I listen to with some regularity is KMFDM and Ministry (both of which I've been ignoring quite a bit recently) and I'd like to expand my horizons a bit. The first few pages had some good info...any more?

dankrsta · 05-03-2010, 10:57 AM

SPK is not mentioned, a great industrial band formed in late 70's.

Also, Chrome from the same period.
Laibach, especially early phase. Rekapitulacija 1980-1984 is a very good compilation of songs from that period.
Bands that started when Throbbing Gristle ended, besides Coil, there's Psychic Tv and Chris & Cosey, more in the ambient and body music (as in dance) vein respectively.
Foetus cannot be missed. It's essentially one-man band, of J. G. Thirlwell. The band had different names every once in a while like Foetus Under Glass, You've Got Foetus On Your Breath and Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel

And, since Current 93 and Death in June are mentioned, I especially like Cranes. They started as a kind of industrial, dark wave band from the middle of the 80's, but developed towards more ambient, ethereal music.

IndianInMoscow · 10-16-2010, 01:54 PM

Hi dankrsta. Did you know Foetus has just released a new album?

03-25-2010, 11:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
sidewinder Engorged Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,536	Maybe I'm the one that's confused. I might have mistaken it for another track. Or, maybe I liked the music enough that it made up for the vocals. It could be that this album needs more time than I've given it. I mean I've probably played it 4 times in the ~17 years I've owned it, maybe it's just hard to digest and hasn't sunk in. And I was "working" while playing it, so I didn't give it my full attention either. __________________ last.fm \| my collection on RYM \| vinyl instagram @allthatyouseeandhear I'd love to see your signature/links too, but the huge and obnoxious ones have caused me to block all signatures.

03-26-2010, 10:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
sidewinder Engorged Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,536	You know, I thought about that too before I listened. So I checked RYM to see what the original track listing was and the default listing showed 16 tracks. And it's actually the only listing, which is surprising because the site is usually pretty accurate with tape, vinyl, CD, import and whatever listings with track lists. Had I seen the shorter original track list, I would have done what you did and just played 1-12. That could definitely be a factor. I should have checked discogs.com. Damn CD bonus tracks. I wish they'd at least always identify them as bonus tracks. I didn't find out until last year some time that early Skinny Puppy albums and Aphex Twin's RDJ Album were loaded with bonus tracks on the CDs. I always thought SP's Bites and Remission were long albums when in reality, Bites had 9 tracks (17 on the CD) and Remission was a 6-track EP (11 on the CD). The original UK release of RDJ Album was 10 tracks and the original US release was 15 tracks. I've ranted about this elsewhere on the forum before. Fuck bonus tracks...just put them on an EP or something. __________________ last.fm \| my collection on RYM \| vinyl instagram @allthatyouseeandhear I'd love to see your signature/links too, but the huge and obnoxious ones have caused me to block all signatures.

04-01-2010, 01:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
crow t robot Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Start, Louisiana Posts: 233	some ambient stuff i dig: Stars of the Lid Aphex Twin's Ambient stuff Loscil William Basinski Brian Eno The Dead Texan Isotope 217 __________________ PS - This is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated...

04-01-2010, 09:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
ikvat Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 625	Orka is more than interesting. I posted a topic (without success) about their stuff some month ago. ORKA on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Downloads __________________ But who cares ?

04-02-2010, 12:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
Joshua A.C. Newman Groupie Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Northampton, MA Posts: 12	Oo! I like this Orka! __________________ I love making stuff. Music is stuff.

04-03-2010, 12:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
littlebatty Groupie Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 13	"humans and objects built by humans would rot alike, the ripe meatiness of 'Hamburger Lady' vying with the failings of tape machines"

04-27-2010, 02:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
OctaneHugo Goes back & does it again Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: philadelphia Posts: 807	Right now the only industrial I listen to with some regularity is KMFDM and Ministry (both of which I've been ignoring quite a bit recently) and I'd like to expand my horizons a bit. The first few pages had some good info...any more? __________________ If Any Major Dude Has Yet To Tell You, Click Here

05-03-2010, 10:57 AM	#9 (permalink)
dankrsta ... Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,776	SPK is not mentioned, a great industrial band formed in late 70's. Also, Chrome from the same period. Laibach, especially early phase. Rekapitulacija 1980-1984 is a very good compilation of songs from that period. Bands that started when Throbbing Gristle ended, besides Coil, there's Psychic Tv and Chris & Cosey, more in the ambient and body music (as in dance) vein respectively. Foetus cannot be missed. It's essentially one-man band, of J. G. Thirlwell. The band had different names every once in a while like Foetus Under Glass, You've Got Foetus On Your Breath and Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel And, since Current 93 and Death in June are mentioned, I especially like Cranes. They started as a kind of industrial, dark wave band from the middle of the 80's, but developed towards more ambient, ethereal music. Last edited by dankrsta; 05-03-2010 at 11:20 AM.

10-16-2010, 01:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
IndianInMoscow Groupie Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 11	Hi dankrsta. Did you know Foetus has just released a new album?