Kosmiche Musik/Krautrock (ambient, jazz, psychedelic, albums, discography)

Urban Hat€monger ? · 05-06-2008, 02:49 PM

I might buy it off Ebay for tons of cash , read it once then flog it for loads of cash.

Rainard Jalen · 05-07-2008, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Molecules

they'll have to reprint it eventually... until then it looks like you'll have to learn German. I bought Japrocksampler on a whim to fill the void and that worked out alright.

As I said, it's in English. PDF with every single page and covers photocopied and in full colour. Could be printed out, stapled together and I don't see there'd be much difference between reading that and having a bound book.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 05-07-2008, 12:04 PM

It would cost me more to buy a printer than it would to get the book.

ShumanTheHuman · 07-17-2008, 11:10 AM

Cope doesn't want a reprint and he seems to be in control of the situation
Check out ww.headheritage.co.uk/drude/qa/krautrock.php

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When I wrote the book, the main reason for doing so was to stop it getting mixed up with all that prog-rock crap that experimental fans love, and to introduce the word 'Krautrock' in a positive, pouting glamrock way. So many journalists pussyfooted around the term and called others xenophobic for using it, which was the main stumbling block in the way of its advancement. And Alan and Steve Freeman at Ultima Thule told me they'd been working on their tome [The Crack in the Cosmic Egg] for years but were spurred on to complete it purely because they knew I was getting mine out first. I don't feel like really updating the book much - it's a period piece written at a time when no ****er was interested and now all these neo-Krautheads are at me saying it's out of date. **** them! I never was a completist or a purist, but I define things that others are too frightened to attempt. Of course the book is out of date now - but that only shows how successful it has been, because wussies like Q hacks now deign to interview Amon Duul 2, etc. when they wouldn't have previously stuck their necks out an inch. And remember that the 10,000 sales doesn't include the German language edition which has been really well received. If it hadn't been, then the German publisher wouldn't have been a full-on head like Werner Pieper, who was Guru Guru's first manager and one of the greatest be-dreadlocked and forward-thinking Mother****ers I ever did meet. Krautrock is about enlightenment not complete-ism for some bourgeois record-collector to get purist about.

So reckon e-bay is your best bet.

A semi-obscure Krautrock band I really like are Mythos. They were at the space rock end of the spectrum on the two albums I have, their debut and 1975s Dreamlab. The only clip I can find of them is on the every reliable prog archives:ww.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=701

The 15 posts url rule sucks

WeeLittleHobbit · 07-17-2008, 01:07 PM

The only Krautrock band I'm very familiar with is Amon Düül II, and they just so happen to be one of my favorite bands. I would really like to get into more Krautrock, but I honestly don't have a clue where to start. I only stumbled across Amon Düül II accidentally while reading Philip Dodd's The Book of Rock, which lists the top 500 acts of rock history. Could someone tell me what some other great Krautrock bands are, and possibly what their best albums are? Thanks a bunch!

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-17-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WeeLittleHobbit

Could someone tell me what some other great Krautrock bands are, and possibly what their best albums are? Thanks a bunch!

There's a post with 50 of the fuckers if you scroll up a few inches.

WeeLittleHobbit · 07-17-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

There's a post with 50 of the fuckers if you scroll up a few inches.

Ah, my apologies, Urban Hatemonger. Thanks anyway, though!

Progman · 07-18-2008, 03:09 AM

Hi all,

New to Music banter and delighted to see a great thread on one of my favourite subjects Kautrock/Kosmische

I have read the Cope book and it is indeed a great starter for any one getting into the Genre but ties itself down to the artists mentioned in the already posted top 50. A far better reference is the online version of the crack in the cosmic egg which covers just anything that came out of Germany at this period (including Mythos)

myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ultimathule/krautrockers.html"The Crack In The Cosmic Egg" light version

For beginners start off with the regulars Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, Can and Neu! From there on go to Harmonia, Cluster and Faust. Faust have a great webpage with a lot of their songs posted on it

faust-pages.com/

I saw them in Cork Ireland a month ago, great stuff indeed!

Then really span out, some of my personal favourites are the more prog-rock-spacejazz bands such as Gurur Guru, Dyzan, Agitation Free, Cosmic Jokers, or if Acid folk is your thing check out BroselMaschine or Holderlin

Amon Duul II are a fantastic band and I have a lot of their lps, but also check out Amon Duul which have these great psychadelic-acid folk jams

Its a great genre, I got into it about 4 years ago, and I'm totally hooked. Its very odd and very avant garde but well worth the effort

There is a good online radio for Krautrock here

krautrock-world.com/english_index.html]Krautrock-World, DAS Krautrock Internetradio und Forum

I cant post urls properly as I am a newbie, but just add the www in front to reach the link

StrangeOvertones · 08-24-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Here's the list of all 50 albums featured in Julian Cope's book....

1. Amon Düül - Paradieswärts Düül (1970)
2 Amon Düül II - Phallus Dei (1969)
3 Amon Düül II - Yeti (1970)
4 Amon Düül II - Carnival in Babylon (1972)
5 Amon Düül II - Wolf City (1972)
6 Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel (1971)
7 Ash Ra Tempel -Schwingungen (1972)
8 Timothy Leary & Ash Ra Tempel - Seven Up (1973)
9 Ash Ra Tempel - Join Inn (1973)
10 Can - Monster Movie (1969)
11 Can - Soundtracks (1970)
12 Can - Tago Mago (1971)
13 Can - Ege Bamyasi (1972)
14 Can - Delay 1968 (1981)
15 Cluster - Cluster II (1972)
16 Cluster - Zuckerzeit (1974)
17 Cluster - Sowiesoso (1996)
18 Tony Conrad with Faust - Outside the Dream Syndicate (1972)
19 The Cosmic Jokers - The Cosmic Jokers (1973)
20 The Cosmic Jokers - Galactic Supermarket (1974)
21 The Cosmic Jokers - Planeten Sit-In (1974)
22 The Cosmic Jokers - Sci-Fi Party (1974)
23 Sternenmädchen & Cosmic Jokers - Gilles Zeitschiff (1974)
24 Faust - Faust (1971)
25 Faust - So Far (1972)
26 Faust - The Faust Tapes (1973)
27 Faust - Faust IV (1974)
28 Sergius Golowin - Lord Krishna von Goloka (1973)
29 Guru Guru - UFO (1970)
30 Harmonia - Musik von Harmonia (1974)
31 Harmonia - Deluxe (1975)
32 Kraftwerk - Kraftwerk (1972) [Compilation of first two albums]
33 La Düsseldorf - La Düsseldorf (1976)
34 La Düsseldorf - Viva (1978)
35 Moebius & Plank - Rastakraut Pasta / Material (1996) [Compilation]
36 Neu! - Neu! (1972)
37 Neu! - Neu! 2 (1973)
38 Neu! - Neu! '75 (1975)
39 Popol Vuh - Affenstunde (1970)
40 Popol Vuh - In den Gärten Pharaos (1971)
41 Popol Vuh - Einsjäger & Siebenjäger (1974)
42 Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra (1972)
43 Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation (1970)
44 Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri (1971)
45 Tangerine Dream - Atem (1973)
46 Tangerine Dream - Zeit (1972)
47 Klaus Schulze - Irrlicht (1972)
48 Klaus Schulze - Blackdance (1974)
49 Walter Wegmüller - Tarot (1973)
50 Witthüser & Westrupp - Trips und Träume (1971)

This list did originally come with rapidshare links to all 50 album done with 320 bitrate but the bastards took the whole lot down

I love the kraut. Out of the list above i have.....

Amon duul 2: Phallas dei
Amon duul2: Yeti
Can: Moster Movie
Can: Tago Mago
Can: Ege Bamyasi
Cluster Zookerzeit
Faust: IV
Harmonia: Musik von harmonia
Harmonia: Deluxe
La Dusseldorf: LA Dusseldorf: La Dusseldorf
Kraftwerk I have the individual 1st 2nd
Neu!: Neu!
Neu!: Neu2
Neu!: Neu 75
PoPol Vuh: In den garten

I'm another newbie so no links allowed but checkout westaddradio's show "Klause to the edge" www westaddradio com/klaus/

**Janszoon** · 08-26-2008, 08:07 PM

Out of the Krautrock albums I own, which are not that many, my favorites are definitely Ege Bamyasi by Can and So Far by Faust.

I've been wanting to check out Amon Duul II for years but their discography seems dauntingly huge. Anyone have some suggestions about the best place to start with them?

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WeeLittleHobbit The Stain Specialist Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 312	The only Krautrock band I'm very familiar with is Amon Düül II, and they just so happen to be one of my favorite bands. I would really like to get into more Krautrock, but I honestly don't have a clue where to start. I only stumbled across Amon Düül II accidentally while reading Philip Dodd's The Book of Rock, which lists the top 500 acts of rock history. Could someone tell me what some other great Krautrock bands are, and possibly what their best albums are? Thanks a bunch! __________________ Tommy: I'm funny how? Funny like a clown? I amuse you? I'm here to fcking amuse you? What do you mean, funny? How am I funny? Henry: You know, how you tell a story. Tommy*: I don't know. You said it. You said I'm funny. How am I funny?

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Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	Out of the Krautrock albums I own, which are not that many, my favorites are definitely Ege Bamyasi by Can and So Far by Faust. I've been wanting to check out Amon Duul II for years but their discography seems dauntingly huge. Anyone have some suggestions about the best place to start with them? __________________ A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man Time & Place 25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die last.fm

07-18-2008, 03:09 AM	#28 (permalink)
Progman Groupie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 7	Hi all, New to Music banter and delighted to see a great thread on one of my favourite subjects Kautrock/Kosmische I have read the Cope book and it is indeed a great starter for any one getting into the Genre but ties itself down to the artists mentioned in the already posted top 50. A far better reference is the online version of the crack in the cosmic egg which covers just anything that came out of Germany at this period (including Mythos) myweb.tiscali.co.uk/ultimathule/krautrockers.html"The Crack In The Cosmic Egg" light version For beginners start off with the regulars Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, Can and Neu! From there on go to Harmonia, Cluster and Faust. Faust have a great webpage with a lot of their songs posted on it faust-pages.com/ I saw them in Cork Ireland a month ago, great stuff indeed! Then really span out, some of my personal favourites are the more prog-rock-spacejazz bands such as Gurur Guru, Dyzan, Agitation Free, Cosmic Jokers, or if Acid folk is your thing check out BroselMaschine or Holderlin Amon Duul II are a fantastic band and I have a lot of their lps, but also check out Amon Duul which have these great psychadelic-acid folk jams Its a great genre, I got into it about 4 years ago, and I'm totally hooked. Its very odd and very avant garde but well worth the effort There is a good online radio for Krautrock here krautrock-world.com/english_index.html]Krautrock-World, DAS Krautrock Internetradio und Forum I cant post urls properly as I am a newbie, but just add the www in front to reach the link