Badlittlekitten

Err what?

If it wasn't for post-rock groups like Slint and Tortoise Young Team wouldn't exist.

I can not comment on Mogwai in general as I've only heard Young Team, which to me, sounds like them two bands only with the intricacy and subtly removed and replaced with cheesy quite-loud dynamics.

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The Slint and Tortoise influence is debatable but all I meant was don't worry about Mogwai being too 'post-rock' for your tastes. At least not their oldest stuff.

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clutnuckle

Not really debatable by any means. Mogwai's emphasis on bass and the way it carries the band more than anything else is almost a carbon copy of Tortoise's first few albums (not that I'm complaining about it, though). Slint's ugliness and the dystopian pictures that their music painted was very importance for Mogwai's loudest, most cathartic moments, such as the climaxes of "Mogwai Fear Satan", "Like Herod" and others (yeah, "MFS" is a happy song but the utter power it exudes is classic Slint for you). Not saying they sound the same and that Mogwai's work is simply a rehash, but their influences are quite obvious at this point.

Indeed, Mogwai has stated that they don't really sound like Tortoise, which is a fair claim to make on some grounds. But the bass-riffing on "Katrien" off of Young Team is so utterly Tortoise that you would probably mistake it for Tortoise if it weren't for the very different style of drumming. The influence is just too obvious to be called into question at any time. Obviously they've strayed away from it now, but their roots lie in a very close ballpark to Tortoise, and to a lesser extent, Slint.

dac

I've been listening to the new album (it leaked, if you were wondering) and i must say it's pretty bland... maybe it will grow on me, the last two did, but not a good first couple of listens

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Astronomer

Hrm, was gonna seek out a leaked download but now I'm not too sure if I'll bother... I heard some stuff off it on an indie radio station out here and I remember thinking it wasn't very interesting at all.

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dac

There were like two or three really good tracks, and then a whole lot of filler.

I did REALLY enjoy this song:

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Sneer

**** yes, my final deadline is may 21st, and i have a Future of the Left gig the next night Although they are no Mogwai...

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