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Trollheart 12-10-2022 05:12 AM

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Plankton 12-10-2022 05:21 AM

Power to the sheeples.

Plankton 12-10-2022 05:45 AM

Ok, so I feel like I'm in on the ground floor here when the revolution comes, so I have my list of demands for change:

1. A section dedicated to Mike Varney and Shrapnel Records, which particularly highlights Tony McAlpine, Paul Gilbert, and Joey Tafola and the influence they've had on K-Pop and American sub-cultures.

rubber soul 12-10-2022 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Guybrush (Post 2222226)
Providing a forum is easy. The hard thing to get is a community. Without one, this site is nothing and it's also something Lech doesn't own and can't feasibly replace if lost. It's a huge leverage the MB community has in dealing with Advameg, but it's never been wielded. Instead, we're just acting like the perfect flock of self-policing sheep.

Well, yeah, this is a community albeit a small one. We all have different interests only united by our basic love of music in general. I do think it's insulting to be called a bunch of sheep just because we don't endorse your view on what the forum should look like.

By the way, do you ever post in the actual music forums or do you just come on here to bitch about how the forum is run?

Guybrush 12-10-2022 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 2222234)
By the way, do you ever post in the actual music forums or do you just come on here to bitch about how the forum is run?

A bit of both, I hope.

You may find the analogy condescending, but consider it. If any one of us get too rowdy in any way, he or she gets quieted by one or more other members. From Advameg's point of view, the MB community as a whole doesn't make much in the way of demands, is well behaved and requires little to no maintenance. All the while creating content and enough activity to generate visitors and some income from ad clicks.

It's a relationship where we're working for Advameg, especially the mods, and they have the luxury of giving us basically nothing in return for the last 10-15 years.

It just doesn't sit right with me.

Plankton 12-10-2022 06:40 AM

Now your gettin it.

The only reason I'm here is because it's a familiar distraction, and I try not to expose too much of myself for exploitation. I'm just here to have a bit of fun, thats it. It's not a job, and it's not something I sink any effort into trying to make better so Lech can squeeze out a few more pennies.

Lisnaholic 12-10-2022 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guybrush (Post 2222226)
Providing a forum is easy. The hard thing to get is a community. Without one, this site is nothing and it's also something Lech doesn't own and can't feasibly replace if lost. It's a huge leverage the MB community has in dealing with Advameg, but it's never been wielded. Instead, we're just acting like the perfect flock of self-policing sheep.

I think we'd all agree on this, and also that the community activity has been dwindling for years. My son used to have a computer game where you had to build up an armed force of Crusaders, starting with a bakery, cows etc. I knew when he wasn't getting it right because I'd hear the computer telling him, "People are leaving the village, sire." So that's a bit like MB.

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Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 2222234)
Well, yeah, this is a community albeit a small one. We all have different interests only united by our basic love of music in general. I do think it's insulting to be called a bunch of sheep just because we don't endorse your view on what the forum should look like.

By the way, do you ever post in the actual music forums or do you just come on here to bitch about how the forum is run?

In fairness to Guybrush, he's still active in the music forums and, historically, has been a major source of music-based MB activity.
What happens of course is that when Guybrush posts in the music threads these days, the response is limited. A thread like this one, though, generates a lot of chat, so he's more visibly active: like most of us, he's got caught up in an up-and-running debate, while his -and our- music-forum posts so often languish without much attention.

Guybrush 12-10-2022 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 2222241)
Now your gettin it.

The only reason I'm here is because it's a familiar distraction, and I try not to expose too much of myself for exploitation. I'm just here to have a bit of fun, thats it. It's not a job, and it's not something I sink any effort into trying to make better so Lech can squeeze out a few more pennies.

Yes. With the way things are, I too figure this is the right way to use MB. At least for myself.

The Batlord 12-10-2022 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Guybrush (Post 2222226)
Providing a forum is easy. The hard thing to get is a community. Without one, this site is nothing and it's also something Lech doesn't own and can't feasibly replace if lost. It's a huge leverage the MB community has in dealing with Advameg, but it's never been wielded. Instead, we're just acting like the perfect flock of self-policing sheep.

For it to be huge leverage it has to be a substantial amount of money to lose. I highly doubt we're more than pocket change for Advameg.

Guybrush 12-10-2022 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2222244)
For it to be huge leverage it has to be a substantial amount of money to lose. I highly doubt we're more than pocket change for Advameg.

Let's say relatively huge, then. MB doesn't work without the community generating value. I'd say MB isn't this place as much as it's you guys.

And if we could pressure Advameg just a little bit, we might finally establish definitely once and for all whether or not they're ever going to do anything for MB. That could inform various healthy decisions regarding stuff like the community's future or for those who invest a lot like Trollheart and mods and the work they put in.


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