Yeah I don't know what changes the update would include either. Let me know if you find out.

...the word gay is not censored. Problem solved!

Yeah I would call this paragraph self-congratulatory in that aspect.

Alright. That's not a term here, but sure, why not. The content of the paragraph still seems fine to me

There's a better term for it that I can't quite place atm. It overstates the problem as a way to bolster your suggestions when they're criticized or ignored.

It's not that we don't care, Guy. It's just that the few of us that are on here just come on to post and may kibbitz a bit. As such, we tend to not want to be bothered when dealing with changes that will never be made on the forum or when a certain member tries in vain to get us to join in on his latest project. In other words. we're just here to relax basically.

Having said that, I do like the idea of expanding the PM capacity. I'm reluctant to send PMs in general because my box would load up too quickly, especially since they count sent PMs as well. I don't know what the capacity is for a mod, but it has to be frustrating to have your PM box stuffed with the various PM's they might send or receive. It was never an issue for me when I was a Mod at the writing forum. We could send as many PMs as we wanted and my box could hold 20,000 PMs by the time I left. Even a regular member could hold 500 PMs. Anyway, that's the one thing I'd recommend.

Yeah I think what Frown is getting at, and you might not realise, is that you're kind of saying "look at me. I think this place can be better but you bunch of lazy gits won't help. Wake up! Think as I do." And we're all blinking and yawning or rolling back over going "Mmmfff? Yeah yeah, five more minutes, honestly. Is that toast I smell?" Like, nobody, so far as can be judged by the responses here, sees a major problem in how the forum is now. Everyone would of course rather it was busier, more active, but that won't be fixed by a few cosmetic upgrades. Again, it's moving the furniture (or, as you say, getting new stuff) without the people to sit on it.

Forums probably are dying, and that's not a thing we can change. I personally prefer them to FB or Cheep or Warble or whatever the other one is, and don't get me started on Grannygram. Instagram. Sorry. Definitely not Grannygram. Something entirely different. Never mind what it is. Where was I?

Oh yeah: your initiatives and suggestions, Tore, sadly and probably unintentionally always come across as a little, um, arrogant maybe? Preachy? You guys don't know, sort of thing, or why can't you understand, that sort of line. And I mean, to be fair, look at them all: every one of them has been more or less shot down. I see this going the same way. It might be better to contribute in a way you can, now, like with some new thread or discussion, rather than a big drive to overhaul the system. I really can't see the benefit. Sure it will be tidier and more pleasing on the eye, but isn't this, again to go on with the metaphors, like someone who opens up say a coffee house and nobody - or very few - comes in. So he thinks I'll add some pictures, paint the walls, bring in a jukebox - all very fine endeavours, but the problem remains: no customers because his coffee is ****e.

That's what it's like here. We've basically become a collection of old - I don't necessarily mean in terms of age, but in terms of how long we've been here - mates and/or adversaries who have been here so long we're stuck in our ways and that's just how we likes it. Another analogy is kind of like one of those old gentleman's clubs they used to have in England, everyone reading their paper and smoking and nobody paying much attention to anyone else, looking over the top of the paper with a frown and a raised eyebrow at any new members.

It's a problem we're unlikely to fix. I don't see any way to, certainly not by doing a spring clean in December. I'm happy to go along here as we are, annoying everyone with my constant threads and planning to foist more and more journals on them in the coming year. It's not a perfect place, but it's our place.

Perhaps, if it ain't broke, y'know?

Oh, and by the way, gay may not be banned but *** is, which is annoying when I did my review of The Nightfly by Donald ***en, and will be when I constantly have to keep getting around how to write the name of the bad guy in Oliver Twist when I get there in my Dickens journal!

They banned the word ***? What do they have against British cigarettes? :yikes:

The fact that MB is still here and not completely deleted and forgotten is a testament to the miniscule amount of earnings this site still brings to Lech Mazur through data mining.

Or due to the existence of some very incriminating photographs held at a secret loc - uh, yeah. Data mining. That sounds better.

I'd say PPC (Pay Per Click) too, but there's no advertisements here.