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Old 07-12-2022, 08:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Why wouldn't you just register a domain like busicmanter or something, get some webhosting and set up a WordPress frontpage and a phpbb install at /forum?

I realize this solution may sound a little 2006, but it probably still works and in a way that's moved with the times?

No ads or anything.
Probably because no one wants to pay out of their own pocket for the backup/alternative solution to Music Banter, no?
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Old 07-12-2022, 08:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The community at large here has always opted for keeping the status quo, seemingly opting for the devil they know rather than take any risk.

For myself, hosting a forum isn't magic. It's not hard and doesn't have to be expensive. The community are the posters, not this blue and outdated junk from 2003. Moving could open up a lot of new exciting possibilities. Staying is slow death.

I like MB a lot, but it's only getting duller as the years go by. Take a risk, people.
I'm happy to move if that's the majority consensus. My main worry is the history here. There's literally no way you could move all of, say, Your Day, to a new forum no matter how many unpaid YTS trainees you roped into it, and that's just one thread! I shudder at how long it's going to take me to move all the entries (well, all the ones made by me) in my personal journals over. So any new forum is essentially starting almost from scratch. Those who have an attachment to certain threads could move them over if they wanted to, but it does sound like it could get messy. Look at my "Love or Hate?" thread. I could move my reviews and comments but not those of other people, and these are what gave the thread its real life and interest.

If we decided to begin from Day One, then yeah, but if we try to port the forum over, as it were, I see that as being a big headache. Unless there's an app for that? Is there an app for that? Tell me there's an app for that.
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I think we spoke about this before. Forums are dying anyway, the advantage of this one I guess is that it has a vast library of discussions that potentially keeps new people signing up (every now and then they stay and contribute). Back in the golden days of forums I've joined more than one and have seen the majority die because of lack of activity.

How do you make sure a new forum succeeds in attracting new people?
Set up containment centres for new members, subject them to 24-hour indoctrination and then release them into the community.
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Not sure, but the musicbanter community could have a presence on various social medias if that's your thing and perhaps some place or way to tie it all together. Maybe someone could find musicbanter from Instagram

A more phone optimized forum and features like notification when someone tags you could be nice. It might not make more people discover the site, but maybe it helps up activity or make people stay.
I don't know: social media and I don't even see each other at funerals and weddings these days. Personally, I'll have nothing to do with it.
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The question was how to we attract, not scare people away!

Just as an aside, the one thing you can do with a forum you control as opposed to this one here, is add stuff you want. Last night I added sections for artists and pets, and had this idea of a private chat room, which might be something. Also if you don't like the colour (bloody Philistines and Eirephobes!) you can just change it.

And no, it's not going to my head, how dare you!
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Old 07-12-2022, 09:06 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Probably because no one wants to pay out of their own pocket for the backup/alternative solution to Music Banter, no?
Like 30 bucks? I'd do it. I'm sure many would.

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One could also set up a patreon or something so more could chip in.
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Old 07-12-2022, 09:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Like 30 bucks? I'd do it. I'm sure many would.
More power to you. Not me. At least, not until we have some kind of consensus about how we want to proceed moving forward. I don't think we're there yet.

The worst part, as others have pointed out, about losing this place is losing the history. If we're just going to start from scratch, I don't know which evil is lesser - using a free forum hosted by some other company or spinning up our own custom one and having the fate be in the hands of (likely) one person - and banking that they'd maintain interest and pay recurring domain/hosting fees.
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The worst part, as others have pointed out, about losing this place is losing the history.
A problem that grows bigger every day and will make it hurt more when this site suddenly goes offline.
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Yeah there would be much discord, you're right.

Oh. I see.

Well isn't that pretty limited though? Kind of a chatbox/Bookface thing?
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Old 07-12-2022, 02:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I think he means in terms of communicating what we'd do for a proper replacement if this thing went kaput, not that Discord would be a direct replacement. I forgot about discord (because I don't use it)
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I agree that discord is fine. It's less limited than a forum actually. Having a forum backup is nice too but given that we have the server, to me archiving this forum's history would be a higher priority
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