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~~[MERIT]~~ · 10-15-2018, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

With you on this one.

Louis C.K. did a good bit about his. When Columbus "discovered the new world."

"This is India, so you guys are Indians."

"Oh, this isn't India?"

"So you're NOT Indians?"

" ...... Aaahhhhhh, you're Indians!"

"So we called them that for the next 500 years."

WWWP · 10-15-2018, 07:00 PM

I grew up on the outskirts of the wind river reservation and in middle and high school sports we played teams from "Wyoming Indian" schools. Go chiefs.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 10-15-2018, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon

I grew up on the outskirts of the wind river reservation and in middle and high school sports we played teams from "Wyoming Indian" schools. Go chiefs.

I'm part Oglala Lakota Sioux. My high school mascot was the Indian [which was pictured as a native American, not a person from India]. I always thought it was stupid and ignorant to label our school's sports teams as being from India while portraying someone from America.

Then I went to college and all of the liberals started preaching about cultural appropriation, and I got a little bit offended, but I got over it fast.

It's okay to have the Washington Redskins, but if we had the New York Negros or the Southside Chicago Brown Boys or the Westchester White Folks, I think people would get pissed off.

WWWP · 10-15-2018, 07:27 PM

I'm with you, not defending use of the term or the mascot, we actually just had a bunch of old white guys up in arms over a local high school changing the mascot from the chiefs to the grizzlys. I'm part blackfoot, approximately 12% so according to lisna lol.

Lisnaholic · 10-15-2018, 07:57 PM

^ Thank you for quoting me as the authority, WWWP.

If [MERIT] sends me a DNA sample, I'll check out his claim as well.

But yes, I can see how the whole thing has become a tricky Eurocentric semantic mess in the US, starting with Columbus "discovering" America although the Native Americans knew it was there all the time. I think things are slowly improving, aren't they? For instance I don't think anyone on MB ever refers to Native Americans as "indians" afaik.

When Cooke (I think) arrived in Jamaica he called a whole bunch of islands The West Indies. I don't know if that name has now been dropped, but in Britain,50 years back, the first generation of Jamaican immigrants were called West Indians. At the time that was considered the most respectful description, much better than referring to a guy's skin colour for example - though I don't think I ever asked a Jamaican how he felt about the label.

**Frownland** · 10-15-2018, 08:02 PM

~~[MERIT]~~ · 10-15-2018, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

If [MERIT] sends me a DNA sample, I'll check out his claim as well.

If I have to jerk off in a cup, I'ma need some visual motivation.

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

When Cooke (I think) arrived in Jamaica he called a whole bunch of islands The West Indies. I don't know if that name has now been dropped, but in Britain,50 years back, the first generation of Jamaican immigrants were called West Indians. At the time that was considered the most respectful description, much better than referring to a guy's skin colour for example - though I don't think I ever asked a Jamaican how he felt about the label.

Also, Leif Erikson set foot on North American soil centuries before that Spanish Jew Columbus did.

**Frownland** · 10-15-2018, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT]

If I have to jerk off in a cup, I'ma need some visual motivation.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 10-15-2018, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

If they make a James Holmes bio-pic, you're in. There's gotta be some way that you can cash in on that. Like, set up a booth at ComiCon? Like the real life Peter Griffin guy?

**Frownland** · 10-15-2018, 10:03 PM

*20 years later*

Hi guys, it's me! Oh you don't remember? I looked like James Holmes for a bit. Want an autograph? What do you mean who's James Holmes?

10-15-2018, 07:57 PM	#135 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	^ Thank you for quoting me as the authority, WWWP. If [MERIT] sends me a DNA sample, I'll check out his claim as well. But yes, I can see how the whole thing has become a tricky Eurocentric semantic mess in the US, starting with Columbus "discovering" America although the Native Americans knew it was there all the time. I think things are slowly improving, aren't they? For instance I don't think anyone on MB ever refers to Native Americans as "indians" afaik. When Cooke (I think) arrived in Jamaica he called a whole bunch of islands The West Indies. I don't know if that name has now been dropped, but in Britain,50 years back, the first generation of Jamaican immigrants were called West Indians. At the time that was considered the most respectful description, much better than referring to a guy's skin colour for example - though I don't think I ever asked a Jamaican how he felt about the label. __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	__________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

10-15-2018, 10:03 PM	#140 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	20 years later Hi guys, it's me! Oh you don't remember? I looked like James Holmes for a bit. Want an autograph? What do you mean who's James Holmes? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x