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Old 10-15-2018, 07:24 PM   #131 (permalink)
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I think this is the first time that I've ever seen that word spelled out.

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I'd also like to see a right wing mod and a mod of colour.
Wait, froundland isn't a black Republican?

Also, can we stop calling native Americans "Indians"? Indians are from India.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:27 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Also, can we stop calling native Americans "Indians"? Indians are from India.
With you on this one.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:54 PM   #133 (permalink)
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With you on this one.
Louis C.K. did a good bit about his. When Columbus "discovered the new world."

"This is India, so you guys are Indians."

"Oh, this isn't India?"

"So you're NOT Indians?"

" ...... Aaahhhhhh, you're Indians!"

"So we called them that for the next 500 years."
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:00 PM   #134 (permalink)
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I grew up on the outskirts of the wind river reservation and in middle and high school sports we played teams from "Wyoming Indian" schools. Go chiefs.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:22 PM   #135 (permalink)
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I grew up on the outskirts of the wind river reservation and in middle and high school sports we played teams from "Wyoming Indian" schools. Go chiefs.
I'm part Oglala Lakota Sioux. My high school mascot was the Indian [which was pictured as a native American, not a person from India]. I always thought it was stupid and ignorant to label our school's sports teams as being from India while portraying someone from America.

Then I went to college and all of the liberals started preaching about cultural appropriation, and I got a little bit offended, but I got over it fast.

It's okay to have the Washington Redskins, but if we had the New York Negros or the Southside Chicago Brown Boys or the Westchester White Folks, I think people would get pissed off.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:27 PM   #136 (permalink)
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I'm with you, not defending use of the term or the mascot, we actually just had a bunch of old white guys up in arms over a local high school changing the mascot from the chiefs to the grizzlys. I'm part blackfoot, approximately 12% so according to lisna lol.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:57 PM   #137 (permalink)
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^ Thank you for quoting me as the authority, WWWP. If [MERIT] sends me a DNA sample, I'll check out his claim as well.

But yes, I can see how the whole thing has become a tricky Eurocentric semantic mess in the US, starting with Columbus "discovering" America although the Native Americans knew it was there all the time. I think things are slowly improving, aren't they? For instance I don't think anyone on MB ever refers to Native Americans as "indians" afaik.

When Cooke (I think) arrived in Jamaica he called a whole bunch of islands The West Indies. I don't know if that name has now been dropped, but in Britain,50 years back, the first generation of Jamaican immigrants were called West Indians. At the time that was considered the most respectful description, much better than referring to a guy's skin colour for example - though I don't think I ever asked a Jamaican how he felt about the label.
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When Cooke (I think) arrived in Jamaica he called a whole bunch of islands The West Indies. I don't know if that name has now been dropped, but in Britain,50 years back, the first generation of Jamaican immigrants were called West Indians. At the time that was considered the most respectful description, much better than referring to a guy's skin colour for example - though I don't think I ever asked a Jamaican how he felt about the label.
Also, Leif Erikson set foot on North American soil centuries before that Spanish Jew Columbus did.
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